associative plurals

[Edith A Moravcsik]

Dear Alex,

No, our sample is not closed and we appreciate information on languages
other than those on the list I posted - both on languages that do and
languages that do not have associative plurals. It is just that,
since we already have many languages in both categories, I did not want to
post a general request since the likelihood was that there would be
duplications.

Thank you for your response (and please do let us know what language(s)
you have in mind!).

Best - Edith Moravcsik 


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On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Alex Francois wrote:

> Hello Edith and everybody,
> 
> What if we know of an associative plural construction in a language
> which is not mentioned in your list? Is your sample already closed for some
> reason?
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex.
> 
> 
> ********
> Alex François
> Lacito-CNRS
> Univ. Paris-III & IV
> 22, Chemin de la Justice
> 92290 Châtenay Malabry
>    FRANCE
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edith A Moravcsik" <edith at CSD.UWM.EDU>
> To: <LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:50 PM
> Subject: associative plurals
> 
> 
> > Mikhail Daniel and I are working on a paper on the world-wide
> > distribution of associative plurals, forming part of the World Atlas for
> > Language Structures project now under preparation. Out of the 200
> > languages in our sample, there are many for which we have been able to
> > ascertain either the presence or the absence of this construction; but
> > there are also many for which we have not found relevant information.
> > These are languages for which grammars do not mention associative plurals
> > and we do not have  informants available to find out whether this is an
> > accidental omission or whether the language does not in fact have the
> > construction.
> >
> > This message is to ask whether you are familiar with any of the languages
> > listed below to the extent that you could tell us whether there is an
> > associative plural construction in them or not. We will much appreciate
> > your help.
> >
> > The associative plural construction consists of a noun N - usually a
> > proper name or a kinship term - and a marker (often the same as the
> > regular plural marker of the language). The meaning is 'N and his
> > family (or friends; or associates)'. An example is Japanese:
> >
> >    Tanaka-tachi 'Tanaka and his friends'
> >
> > The information that we would need is this:
> >
> >    (a) Does language L have associative plurals or not?
> >    (b) If it does,
> >        - could you give us one or two examples?
> >        - can you describe the composition and/or additional use of
> >          the associative marker? In particular, is it or is it
> >          not identical to the regular plural marker of the language?
> >
> > Here are the languages that we are primarily interested in:
> >
> >    - Acoma
> >    - Bagirmi
> >    - Barasano
> >    - Burushaski
> >    - Canela-Kraho
> >    - Copainale Zoque
> >    - Cree
> >    - Daga
> >    - Egyptian Arabic
> >    - Grebo
> >    - Guarani
> >    - Harar Oromo
> >    - Hmong Njua
> >    - Imonda
> >    - Jacaltec
> >    - Kewa
> >    - Kiowa
> >    - Koasati
> >    - Mangarayi
> >    - Mapuche
> >    - Maricopa
> >    - Maung
> >    - Maybrat
> >    - Otomi
> >    - Paiwan
> >    - Rama
> >    - Sanuma
> >    - Supyire
> >    - Tamazight (Ayt Nghir dialect)
> >    - Tiwi
> >    - Tukang Besi
> >    - Warao
> >    - Wari
> >    - Apiboni
> >    - Awa Pit
> >    - Aymara
> >    - Bawm
> >    - Beja
> >    - Bribri
> >    - Cahuilla
> >    - Cambodian
> >    - Carib
> >    - Cayuvava
> >    - Coast Tshimshian
> >    - Dehu
> >    - Diola-Fogny
> >    - Dongolese Nubian
> >    - Ekagi
> >    - Epena Pedee
> >    - Fur
> >    - Haida
> >    - Hanis Coos
> >    - Hunzib
> >    - Igbo
> >    - Ika
> >    - Iraqw
> >    - Kapau
> >    - Karo Batak
> >    - Kawesqar
> >    - Ket
> >    - Khasi
> >    - Khmu
> >    - Kilivila
> >    - Koromfe
> >    - Kunama
> >    - Ladakhi
> >    - Latvian
> >    - Lealao Chinantec
> >    - Maba
> >    - Maranungku
> >    - Mundari
> >    - Murle
> >    - Ndyuka
> >    - Nenets
> >    - Ngiti
> >    - Nkore-Kiga
> >    - Paamase
> >    - Passamaquoddy
> >    - Pitjantjatjara
> >    - Selknam (Ona)
> >    - Semelai
> >    - Sentani
> >    - Shipibo-Konibo
> >    - Southeastern Pomo
> >    - Squamish
> >    - Suena
> >    - Taba
> >    - Tetelcingo Naguatl
> >    - Tlingit
> >    - Trumai
> >    - Tunica
> >    - Una
> >    - Ungarinjin
> >    - Usan
> >    - Wambaya
> >    - Witoto
> >    - Yimas
> >    - Yuchi
> >    - Yurok
> >    - !Xu (Ju/'hoan)
> >
> > Thank you for your attention.
> >
> > Mikhail Daniel (daniel at qub.com)
> > Edith Moravcsik (edith at uwm.edu)
> >
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> > Edith A. Moravcsik
> > Department of Foreign Languages and Linguistics
> > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> >          Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413
> >                          USA
> >
> > E-mail: edith at uwm.edu
> >          Telephone: (414) 229-6794 /office/
> >     (414) 332-0141 /home/
> >          Fax: (414) 229-2741
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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> 

   
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			 Edith A. Moravcsik
			 Department of Foreign Languages and Linguistics
			 University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
		         Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413
                         USA

			 E-mail: edith at uwm.edu
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