Fwd: Re: Zero-coded plurals of pluralia tantum

Erdal at EM.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE Erdal at EM.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE
Mon Dec 21 09:30:01 UTC 2009


In Modern Hebrew, words like 'trousers', 'spectacles', 'scissors',  
'socks', 'eyes', 'ears', 'knees' have dual shape but the same forms  
also refer to several specimens of the entity - or e.g. 'several pairs  
of socks': These are dualia tantum. The question is how this matter  
functions in other languages which have duals - especially those which  
use the form also for entities which do not come in natural pairs  
(which is not the case in Modern Hebrew).
Marcel Erdal

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Amendment: "All my trousers have a hole in them!" -> "All my trousers have
holes in them!"
Siva

2009/12/20 Siva Kalyan <sivakalyan.princeton at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> Suppose I had one pair of trousers with a hole in it. I would exclaim, "My
> trousers have a hole in them!". Now suppose I had the misfortune to discover
> that this was true of *all* of my pairs of trousers. Then I would say,
> "All my trousers have a hole in them!". Note that in the first case, *
> trousers* refers to a single pair of trousers, whereas in the second, it
> refers to multiple pairs.
>
> What I'm curious about is: How common is this in the world's languages?
> That is, how common is it for a language to zero-code the plural of a
> plurale tantum (a noun denoting a singular entity but which is grammatically
> plural)? Is there any other strategy that is used used in such situations?
> (The earlier thread on double plurals comes to mind.)
> Also, why would a language zero-code this kind of plural in the first
> place? Might it have to do with the "repeated morph constraint" (Menn and
> MacWhinney 1984) or "product-oriented schemas" (Bybee 2001)?
>
> Thanks,
> Siva
>
> Ref's
>
> Bybee, Joan. Phonology and Language Use. Cambridge University Press, 2003.
> Menn, L, and B MacWhinney. "The Repeated Morph Constraint: Toward An
> Explanation." Language 60, no. 3 (1984): 519-541.
>


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