journal publication and journal lists

Nigel Vincent nigel.vincent at MANCHESTER.AC.UK
Mon Mar 29 11:35:54 UTC 2010

What Martin says is very interesting and prompts me to ask a question  
that takes us well away from Wolfgang's original request (apologies  
for that, Wolfgang).
On Wednesday I will be attending on behalf of the British Academy a  
meeting in Brussels about the European Research Index for the  
Humanities (ERIH). Researchers of my acquaintance in several countries  
and across a range of disciplines have been in general very negative  
about the idea of drawing up a ranking list of journals (the  
Australians have done something rather similar recently under the  
banner of ERA). I wonder what members of this list feel about a) the  
general idea of categorizing journals in this way as opposed to  
letting the rankings be derived bottom-up as a function of citation  
numbers; b) the particular treatment of linguistics and philology  
journals within ERIH.

Quoting Martin Haspelmath <haspelmath at EVA.MPG.DE>:

> Since increasingly, even papers from "print journals" are printed  
> out rather than retrieved from a library in paper form, the  
> difference is now mainly between journals with page number  
> restrictions and journals without page number restrictions. The  
> latter are obviously preferable (in typology, we have one so far:  
> It seems to me that the future of linguistics lies in abandoning  
> monograph publication, and shifting to journal-only publication.  
> Increasingly, as linguists compete for resources with other  
> disciplines, journal publication is seen as counting more. (In fact,  
> it may make sense to go as far as relabeling entire book series as  
> journals, to help evaluators and funding agencies see linguistics as  
> what it is, a respectable science.)
> Martin
> P.S. I wouldn't recommend the "self-publishing" strategy suggested  
> by Dan Everett as an option. As he notes, this is not available to  
> junior scholars, so if it became acceptable, it would put them at a  
> disadvantage. I think we should not cite unpublished work that isn't  
> evidently intended for regular publication.
> dlevere at ILSTU.EDU wrote:
>> Dear Wolfgang,
>> It seems to me that work that doesn't quite fit an established  
>> print journal or monograph series ought either to be submitted to  
>> an electronic journal or simply posted on one's webpage with a  
>> notice to the relevant list, at least for senior scholars such as  
>> yourself.
>> Most of the people who would read and benefit from your research  
>> report are readers of this list and Funknet, and some on  
>> LinguistList who don't read these two lists. In fact, by making  
>> your work available to your colleagues by this announcement and  
>> your webpage, you have probably already ensured that your paper  
>> will be read by more people than most print outlets.
>> I look forward to reading the work from your website.
>> Others might have different opinions about publication, of course.  
>> But that is my view.
>> Dan
>> Quoting Wolfgang Schulze <W.Schulze at LRZ.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>:
>>> Dear friends and colleagues
>>> please allow me making a perhaps somewhat unusual post. But maybe you
>>> can help me or give me some advise. I have produced an admittedly
>>> lengthy paper on the *grammaticalization of antipassives* in terms of
>>> split aspects systems, dealing mainly with Sumerian, Kartvelian, and
>>> Proto-Indo-European, but including data from other languages, too. You
>>> can download the first draft (attention: not yet proof-read by an
>>> native speaker of English!) from
>>> . My problem is that
>>> I really don't know what to do with this paper. It is too long for
>>> submission to a journal (79 pages), and too short for producing a
>>> (slender) monography. Any suggestions (if ever you can imagine that the
>>> contents are of relevance for our community)? In addition, I would be
>>> happy to receive critics and other comments all of which would
>>> undoubtedly help to improve the quality of the analyses.
>>> Many thanks in advance and best wishes,
>>> Wolfgang
>>> -- 
>>> -- 
>>> *Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Schulze *
> -- 
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