Font-related problem for linguists

Peter Kahrel kahrel at KAHREL.PLUS.COM
Thu Mar 1 13:10:06 UTC 2012


A surprise indeed, I hadn't realised that those new Microsoft fonts had 
those sets, thanks for pointing that out. And proper italics, too. But 
Don's problem of the slanted a remains because it doesn't have a Unicode 

On 01.03.2012 12:56, Spencer, Andrew J wrote:
> Don, Peter,
> Having recommended Charis SIL to students and colleagues I discovered
> the Unicode-related problems Don mentions, including the problem of
> slanted/italic 'ash' (æ), which comes out as italic oe ligature (œ).
> Somewhat to my surprise, I find that MicroSoft's recent font Cambria
> has rather better IPA support, at least in this respect. It provides
> slanted versions for the complete IPA character set, including
> superscripts such as aspiration. Has anyone encountered any problems
> with Cambria IPA that I'm unaware of?
> Of course, the other alternative is to use LaTeX with the TIPA
> package. I can put all the IPA symbols into slanted mode provided I
> use a supported font (Times New Roman - it doesn't necessarily work
> with other fonts), and XeTeX users can presumably just input Cambria
> if they want. However, LaTeX doesn't help if you need to share files
> with non-LaTeX users, of course.
> Andrew
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> Subject: Re: Font-related problem for linguists
> Don,
> Not a silly question at all: it's a common problem. The trouble is 
> that
> a and its 'slanted' equivalent have no Unicode position. Charis's
> behaviour to italicise a as a slanted is an annoying feature, but
> designed and expected. You should appeal to the Unicode consortium
> (, not to SIL, so that type foundries (such as SIL) 
> can
> place the character somewhere. (Such a request should be pending but 
> it
> won't harm if you remind the consortium: the more requests, the 
> quicker
> the fix.)
> As you said, in the meantime you can create a font with a and its
> slanted equivalent (if you know how). Use that for your own purposes.
> Use a position from the Private Use range, say E000. Then when you
> submit a text for publication, tell the editor that E000 represents a
> and its slanted version, and give them your font. If the typesetters
> can't deal with that, the publisher should find someone else.
> Peter

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