ergative to accusative alignment

Daniel Valle Arevalo davalle at UTEXAS.EDU
Thu Jan 9 17:51:45 UTC 2014


Dear Raheleh,

Kakataibo, a Panoan language, has developed a nominative alignment in
pronouns only after extending the ergative marker. Nouns still keep the
ergative alignment (Valle 2011, available on academia.edu). In terms of
verbal agreement, the language is nom-acc.

Valle, Daniel. 2009. El sistema de marcaciĆ³n de caso en kakataibo. Bachelor
thesis, Universidad Nacional Mayor San Marcos, Lima.

Best,
Daniel


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Griscom <rgriscom at uoregon.edu>wrote:

> This is a very interesting topic, but I would also add a word of caution
> against making assumptions regarding entire language systems conforming to
> a single alignment pattern. In my opinion, alignment is best viewed as
> construction-specific rather than language-specific in order to avoid
> inaccurate generalizations across the distribution. This, of course,
> doesn't preclude an analysis of a shift in the alignment patterns of one or
> more constructions in a given language.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Florian Siegl <florian.siegl at gmx.net>wrote:
>
>>  A related phenomena though only partly answering the initial posting is
>> attested on Kamtchatka. Chukchi and Koryak show ergative alignment, but not
>> Itelmen. The Itelmen absolute case marks S as well as A and P. Whether the
>> Itelmen transitive verbal agreement markers still follow erg-abs alignment
>> is not settled. Itelmen is not ergative but apparently not very
>> nominative-accusative either. See the relevant sections in Georg, Stefan &
>> Volodin, Alexander P. 1999. Die itelmenische Sprache - Grammatik und Texte.
>> Tunguso-Sibirca 5. Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>>
>>
>> Florian Siegl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9.01.2014 9:03, Don Killian wrote:
>>
>> Dear Raheleh,
>>
>> Depending on what you might be including by ergative, there's an
>> interesting article by Dimmendaal 2012 (
>> http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/afrikanistik/mitarbeit/dimmendaal/Marked%20nominative%20in%20Eastern%20Sudanic%20130907%20DR%20comments.pdf)
>> in which he postulates the origins of Marked Nominative (depending on who
>> you ask, some consider this a subcategory of accusative alignment) in
>> Eastern Sudanic languages.
>>
>> Gaahmg is particularly interesting as far as diachronic developments go,
>> as it also has both passive and antipassive constructions and in fact can
>> allow for both types of markers simultaneously.  If you're curious, email
>> me and I can send you an article by Tim Stirtz.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> On 01/08/2014 02:24 PM, Raheleh Izadi Far wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Does anybody know about languages which have changed from ergative
>> alignment to accusative alignment? or does anybody know about the
>> mechanisms involved in such a change? what are the studies concerning
>> this issue? and if there are any, are they accessible online?
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Raheleh Izadifar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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