[Lingtyp] Syncretism between forms encoding source and agent

Chris Donlay chrisdonlay at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 21 15:08:44 EDT 2018

 FYI, LaPolla 1995 inspired a number of more detailed examinations into agent and related markers in Tibeto-Burman languages. Take a look at the journal "Linguistics of the Tibeto-Burman Area" volumes 34.2 (2011) and 35.1 (2012), and various articles afterwards, including my own look at Khatso in volume 40.2.

    On Saturday, July 21, 2018, 4:32:01 AM PDT, Randy J. LaPolla <randy.lapolla at gmail.com> wrote:  
 Dear Ponrawee Prasertsom,In the Sino-Tibetan languages it is common for the same adposition to be used for ablative (source), instrument, manner adverb, actor, and/or causal clause marker. See the following papers:
LaPolla, Randy J. 1995. On the utility of the concepts of markedness andprototypes in understanding the development of morphological systems. Bulletin of the Institute of History andPhilology  66.4:1149-1185. www.ntu.edu.sg/home/randylapolla/Papers/LaPolla_1995_On_the_Utility_of_the_Concepts_of_Markedness_and_Prototypes_in_Understanding_the_Development_of_Morphological_Systems.pdf 
LaPolla, Randy J. 1995. Ergative marking in Tibeto-Burman. In YoshioNishi, James A. Matisoff, & Yasuhiko Nagano (eds.), New horizons in Tibeto-Burman morpho-syntax (Senri Ethnological Studies 41), 189-228. Osaka: National Museum ofEthnology. www.ntu.edu.sg/home/randylapolla/Papers/LaPolla_1995_Ergative_Marking_in_Tibeto-Burman.pdf
LaPolla, Randy J. 2004. On nominal relational morphology inTibeto-Burman. In Ying-jin Lin, Fang-min Hsu, Chun-chih Lee, Jackson T.-S. Sun,Hsiu-fang Yang, and Dah-an Ho (eds.),  Studies on Sino-Tibetan languages: Papers inhonor of Professor Hwang-cherng Gong on his seventieth birthday, 43-74.Taipei: Institute of Linguistics, Academia Sinica, December 2004. www.ntu.edu.sg/home/randylapolla/Papers/LaPolla_2004_On_Nominal_Relational_Morphology_in_Tibeto-Burman.pdf
These papers mainly talk about Tibeto-Burman, but in Sinitic (Chinese) the same is true of the particle yǒu (由).
All the best,Randy   
-----Randy J. LaPolla, PhD FAHA (羅仁地)Professor of Linguistics and Chinese, School of Humanities Nanyang Technological UniversityHSS-03-45, 14 Nanyang Drive | Singapore 637332http://randylapolla.net/Most recent book:https://www.routledge.com/The-Sino-Tibetan-Languages-2nd-Edition/LaPolla-Thurgood/p/book/9781138783324

On 21 Jul 2018, at 6:06 AM, Ponrawee Prasertsom <ponrawee.pra at gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
I am exploring research possibilities on the language of motion events.
Does anyone know of a language that employs the same form (in any strategy--case, preposition, syntactic roles etc.) that for coding source (the starting point in a motion event, as in: I walked *from* my house to school) and agent? 
Related references would also be highly appreciated.
Ponrawee Prasertsom
Graduate StudentDepartment of LinguisticsChulalongkorn UniversityBangkok, Thailand_______________________________________________
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