[Lingtyp] Plural markers on (already) plural pronouns

TALLMAN Adam Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr
Fri Nov 15 16:34:02 UTC 2019


The morpheme =βo~=βá marks plural on nouns in Chacobo. It seems to occur on the first person plural /no/ (the nominative form) when this is a possessive pronoun, as in noβá ʂɨatí 'our medicine'. But then again, the singular possessive pronoun is noʔo so perhaps /no/ is singular. I would think that such cases of extended exponence would be pretty common in pronouns.  

Adam




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Hi Ponrawee,
Sri Lanka Malay has "kithang" '1pl' and "kithampada" '1pl', where "pada"
is a plural marker. Same for second person plural "lorang/lorampada" and
third person "derang/derampada".
Best wishes
Sebastian



On 11/15/19 5:01 PM, Ponrawee Prasertsom wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I have been looking at a number of Tai languages and found that in some
> of these languages, plural pronouns can optionally take a plural marker
> normally used on common nouns. For instance, in Shan (Southwestern Tai),
> the third person plural pronoun /khau/ can optionally take the plural
> marker /cɯ(nai)/, viz. /khau cɯ(nai)--/at least according to Cushing 1871.
>
> Assuming this analysis is correct (if it's not please kindly inform me),
> I'm wondering how rare this is for pronouns? A quick lookup revealed
> that a similar phenomenon called "double plural marking" is found in
> some languages, but seems to be restricted to common nouns only. Does
> anyone know of any other instances like this for pronouns in other
> languages?
>
> Sources: Cushing, Josiah Nelson. Grammar of the Shan Language. Rangoon:
> American Mission Press, 1871.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Ponrawee Prasertsom
>
> Graduate Student
> Department of Linguistics
> Faculty of Arts, Chulalongkorn University
> Bangkok, Thailand
>
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