[Lingtyp] (A)symmetry of linguistic convergence in different domains

Siva Kalyan sivakalyan.princeton at gmail.com
Fri Jul 30 02:06:27 UTC 2021


Hi all,

I'd like to point out that Kulkarni-Joshi (2016) tried to replicate Gumperz & Wilson (1971), and found little to no evidence of structural convergence between local varieties of Marathi and Kannada in Kupwar. In fact, she suggests (pp. 168–170) that the apparent structural convergence may have been an artefact of the elicitation methodology (which consisted of playing a recording of one language to speakers of another, and asking them to translate it accurately).

Kulkarni-Joshi, Sonal. 2016. Forty years of language contact and change in Kupwar: A critical assessment of the intertranslatability model. Journal of South Asian Languages and Linguistics 3(2): 147–174.

Siva

> On 29 Jul 2021, at 11:44 pm, Juergen Bohnemeyer <jb77 at buffalo.edu> wrote:
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> Dear Ian — The central finding of Gumperz & Wilson (1971), one of the classics in the literature on areality, is that in their particular case study of the Dravidian-Indic border, there is extensive morphosyntactic convergence, but not so much phonological and lexical convergence. There is in particular massive calquing and very little borrowing. The authors’ explanation for this distribution is that it facilitates rapid intertranslatability while simultaneously allowing the various contact varieties to retain their social indexical functions, which G&W argue are primarily tied to the domains speakers/hearers are most consciously aware of: phonology and lexicon. 
> 
> To be sure, this outcome is the specific product of the social dynamics at play in that particular context and don’t generalize to areas where the underlying social dynamics is very different. 
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> Gumperz, J. J. & Wilson, R. (1971). Convergence and creolization: A case from the Indo-Aryan/Dravidian border in India. In D. Hymes (Ed.), Pidginization and creolization in language. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 151-167. 
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> I’d be happy to email you a copy. 
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> Best — Juergen
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>> On Jul 29, 2021, at 8:34 AM, Nicholas Evans <nicholas.evans at anu.edu.au> wrote:
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>> Hi Ian
>> I think it's also good to remember that contact can produce divergence. 
>> Also: google Malcolm Ross and 'metatypy' for some interesting discussions on where convergence does and does not occur
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>> See attached
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>> From: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of JOO, Ian [Student] <ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk>
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>> Subject: [Lingtyp] (A)symmetry of linguistic convergence in different domains
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>> Dear typologists,
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>> I would appreciate it if you can suggest literature that can answer my following question:
>> When linguistic convergence happens due to contact, does it necessarily happen in every domain? For example, when two languages develop phonological similarity due to contact, do they also develop syntactic similarity, lexical similarity, etc.? Or is it possible for two languages to converge in one domain but not in another domain?
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>> From Hong Kong,
>> Ian
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