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<P><FONT size=3>At 20:02 03.11.2001 -0700, Jordan Lachler wrote: </FONT><FONT size=3></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"I am looking for references to languages which have both person and number argument marking on the verb, and/or person and number marking for possessor on the noun, but where these categories are not combined in the same portmanteau morpheme, and are instead expressed by separate morphemes".</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Otomi (Oto-Pame; Oto-Manguean: Mexico) has independent suffixes to express plurality of person. In some dialects verbs and nouns inflect for both Plural and Dual, but in others the use of the Dual has become restricted. The morphs realizing those morphemes may show up in verbs, but also in nouns to indicate the plurality of the possessor, (the dialect here is Otomi from Querétaro, Mexico):<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">dí tsí<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:PRES eat/drink </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></SPAN><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">dí tsí-h</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SILDoulosIPA; mso-ansi-language: ES; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA">®</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SILDoulosIPA; mso-ansi-language: ES; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA">Û</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:PRES eat/drink-PL:INCL</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">dí tsí-hé<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:PRES eat/drink-PL:EXCL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">dí tsí-wí<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:PRES eat/drink-DUAL:INCL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">dí tsí-</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SILDoulosIPA; mso-ansi-language: ES; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA">'</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">bé<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:PRES eat/drink-DUAL:EXCL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">mà-mĭshí<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:POSS-cat<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">mà- mĭshí -h</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: SILDoulosIPA; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA">®</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: SILDoulosIPA; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA">Û</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:POSS-cat-PL:EXCL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">mà- mĭshí -hé<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:POSS-cat-PL:INCL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">mà- mĭshí -wí<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:POSS-cat-DUAL:INCL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">mà- mĭshí -</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: SILDoulosIPA; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: SILDoulosIPA">'</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">bé<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>1:POSS-cat-DUAL:EXCL</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Basque (Isolate: Spain & France) has two independent affixes in the auxiliary which cross-reference the Plurality of an Absolutive NP. They seem to be grammatically conditioned allomorphs, the one shows up in a transitive aligment, and the other in an ditransitive surrounded by dative markers: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> </SPAN><I><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: ES">sagar-r-a <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>jan <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>d-u-t<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">apple-PhL-DEF<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>eat<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>3:ABS-<I>UKAN</I>(have)-1:ERG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">“I have eaten the apple”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> </SPAN><I><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">sagar-r-ak <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>jan <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>d-<B>it</B>-u-t<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">apple-PhL-DEF:PL<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>eat<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>3:ABS-ABS:PL:<I>UKAN</I>(have)-1:ERG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">“I have eaten the apples”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> </SPAN><I><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: ES">sagar-r-a <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>eman <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>d-i-o-t<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">apple-PhL-DEF<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>give<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>3:ABS-DAT-3:DAT-1:ERG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">“I have given him/her the apple”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> </SPAN><I><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">sagar-r-ak <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>eman <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>d-i<B>-zki</B>-o-t<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">apple-PhL-DEF:PL<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>give<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>3:ABS-DAT-ABS:PL-3:DAT-1:ERG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">“I have given him/her the apples”</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif" size=4><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ES; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif" size=4><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ES; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">PhL phonotactic link, DEF definite, PL plural, ABS absolutive, DAT dative.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV>Enrique Palancar</DIV>
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