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<P>Dear Members,</P>
<P>My readings on the "associative construction" in a language like Igbo (some call it "the completive phrase") are not helping me get to the root of the expression. What turns a "Noun + Noun" into an associative construction?<BR>An associative floating high tone between the two nouns has also been suggested (Welmers 1963, In: Language), but that has not helped either. Is the "associative" a tonal phenomenon alone,or does it have any thing to do with the semantics of the "associating" nouns? I ask this question because there have been cases of some "seeing" the associative tone pattern in nominalizations. </P>
<P><BR>Looking forward to your helpful contributions.</P></DIV>
<P>Chinedu Uchechukwu<BR>PhD Student<BR>Otto-Friedrich-Universitat, Bamberg<BR>Germanistik: Deutsche Sprachwissenschaft, Deutsch als Fremdsprache.</P>
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<P>>From: Daniel Everett <DAN.EVERETT@MAN.AC.UK></P>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: Daniel Everett <DAN.EVERETT@MAN.AC.UK>
<DIV></DIV>>To: LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Jesuits and linguistics
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:03:00 +0100
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<DIV></DIV>>Yes, well thanks for the names. Perhaps, though, it would be helpful
<DIV></DIV>>not to assume that others knew immediately the relationship between
<DIV></DIV>>even well-known linguists and Jesuit linguists, e.g. whether or not
<DIV></DIV>>this or that linguist is or was trained by or knew Jesuits. A bit
<DIV></DIV>>more specificity perhaps.
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<DIV></DIV>>Tangentially related to the matter of Jesuits and linguistics, I am
<DIV></DIV>>sure that some on this list will have read The Sparrow, by Mary
<DIV></DIV>>Doria Russell, about an expedition to contact a population of
<DIV></DIV>>sentient beings on another planet. The leader of the expedition is a
<DIV></DIV>>Jesuit linguist, because the whole world knows (in the novel) that
<DIV></DIV>>the person to take the lead in any such contact between
<DIV></DIV>>civilizations is a linguist. Russell told me that her book helped
<DIV></DIV>>Jesuit recruitment (she is an ex-Catholic, converted to Judaism).
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<DIV></DIV>>This is not why I asked my initial question, but it is an
<DIV></DIV>>interesting observation. And the linguistic fieldwork on another
<DIV></DIV>>planet described in the book is based on monolingual field research
<DIV></DIV>>and is quite believable.
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<DIV></DIV>>I think by now I have received plenty of responses to my query. I
<DIV></DIV>>will try to put together a summary of the excellent and useful
<DIV></DIV>>responses I have received and post them to this list.
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<DIV></DIV>>Thanks very much to all of you who responded.
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<DIV></DIV>>-- Dan
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<DIV></DIV>>On Wednesday, Aug 27, 2003, at 19:17 Europe/London, Hartmut
<DIV></DIV>>Haberland wrote:
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<DIV></DIV>>>Hans Götzsche wrote:
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<DIV></DIV>>>>Wouldn't it be convenient to ask Jacob Mey?
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<DIV></DIV>>>>Hans Götzsche
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<DIV></DIV>>>Or Zeno Vendler?
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<DIV></DIV>>>Hartmut Haberland
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