<html><head><base href="x-msg://266/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes, Kurylowicz said this and I quoted him in my book on Middle Voice<div>in Chapter 5, on the grammaticalization paths relating to middler markers (i.e. morphosyntactic </div><div>forms that express middle voice semantics) </div><div>Suzanne</div><div><br><div><div><div>On Oct 5, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Enrique L. Palancar wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.35em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span lang="EN-US">Dear Diego,</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.35em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span lang="EN-US">For Proto Indo-European, the reconstructed person endings of the Perfect closely resemble those of the Middle voice and it has been speculated that they once formed a single paradigm. If interested you may want to have a look at Forston, B. 2004. Indo-European Language and Culture. Blackwell, who nicely summarizes a long discussion to a couple of interesting facts. I would be very much interested to read about what you mentioned as "<span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">While it is not difficult to trace the likely semantic reanalysis underlying this change", for most people still working with Indo-European are still puzzled by this.</span></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.35em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span lang="EN-US">Best,</span></p></span><br><font class="EC_Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Enrique L. Palancar</font><br><b><font color="#1f497d"><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline; "><a href="http://www.enriquepalancar.weebly.com">www.enriquepalancar.weebly.com</a></span></span><br></font></b>Docente-Investigador<br>Universidad Autónoma de Querétaro<br>Cerro de las Campanas s/n<br>Querétaro 76010<br>Querétaro, México<br>Tel. (52) 442.192.12.00/Ext. 6113/6116<br><br><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:02:03 -0600<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jquesad@UNA.AC.CR">jquesad@UNA.AC.CR</a><br>Subject: Channel PERFECTIVE > MIDDLE<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br><br><font size="2">Dear colleagues,</font><br><font size="2">Does anyone know of a language in which the (former) marker of perfective aspect became a marker of middle voice? In Bocotá, a language of Panama, the marker -<em>du<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></em>has been described as a marker of perfective aspect (Gunn 1975), while in Buglere, a dialect of Bocotá, spoken in Southwestern Panama and Costa Rica, it clearly behaves as a marker of middle voice. While it is not difficult to trace the likely semantic reanalysis underlying this change, I would like to know if this has been attested elsewhere.</font><br><font size="2">Thanks<span lang="ES-CR" style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font><br><font size="2"><span lang="ES-CR" style="font-size: 12pt; ">Diego</span></font><br><font size="2"><span lang="ES-CR" style="font-size: 12pt; "></span>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Prof. Dr. J. Diego Quesada<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Escuela de Literatura y Ciencias del Lenguaje<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Facultad de Filosofía y Letras<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Universidad Nacional<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>3000 Heredia, COSTA RICA<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></font><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>