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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The classic reference on this is:<br>
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<div class="csl-entry">Siewierska, Anna. 1998. On nominal and
verbal person marking. <i>Linguistic Typology</i> 2(1). 1–56.
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She examines a world-wide sample of 157 languages and finds that
83% of the languages with person indexes on both nouns and verbs
have "some degree of phonemic correspondence between the two sets
of forms". Similarity of possessor indexes with A indexes and with
P indexes is about equally common.<br>
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Two earlier important references are:<br>
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<div class="csl-entry">Allen, W. Sidney. 1963. Transitivity and
possession. <i>Language</i> 40. 337–343.<br>
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<div class="csl-entry">Seiler, Hansjakob. 1983. Possessivity,
subject and object. <i>Studies in Language</i> 7. 89–117. <br>
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Greetings,<br>
Martin<br>
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On 19.03.14 18:25, Francoise Rose wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-GB">Dear Jorge,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-GB">This is in fact quite frequent, due to the
similar origin of possessor indexes and argument indexes in
the same set of independent pronominals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-US">Dixon and Aikhenvald (1999) state about
Amazonian languages that </span><span lang="EN-GB">"the
bound pronominal forms marking a possessor within an NP are
typically the same as one of the bound pronominal paradigms
for marking core arguments of a clause."</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Possessor may be indexed
like P (Tupi-Guarani, Jê, Cf. Emerillon examples below), or
like A (Arawak, cf. Mojeño examples below).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Emérillon (Tupi-Guarani, French Guyana)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="exemplesIJAL" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span
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style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">zawa‰
<b>e-</b>su¿u</span></a><span style="font-style:normal"
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US">dog 1<span
style="font-variant:small-caps">sg</span>.<b>II</b>-bite<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> 'A dog bit me.'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><b><span lang="EN-US">e-</span></b><span
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style="font-variant:small-caps">sg</span>.<b>II</b>-husband<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Mojeño Trinitario (Arawak, Bolivia)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-variant:small-caps">pl</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"" lang="EN-US">a-jañok<b>-nu</b>-yre</span><span
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Roman","serif";font-style:normal"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-variant:small-caps">-1sg-fut</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">'You will watch over me.'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><b><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"" lang="EN-US">n-</span></b></a><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"" lang="EN-US">ousa</span><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";font-style:normal"
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"" lang="EN-US"> 1<span
style="font-variant:small-caps">sg</span>-village
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
lang="EN-US"> 'my village' <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
lang="EN-US">The pattern you are interested in is found
throughout the Arawak family. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-US">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-US">Françoise<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a>] <b>De la part de</b>
Jorge Emilio Rosés Labrada<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 19 mars 2014 17:07<br>
<b>À :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Marking of possessor and A and/or S with the
same set of affixes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mako [wpc] employs the same
set of affixes to mark the possessor on the
possessed noun (See example (1) below) and to
mark the A and the S on the verb (See examples
(2) and (3) below). I was wondering if you were
familiar with other languages that share this
feature (i.e., same set of markers for nominal
possession and verbal subject marking) and could
let me know. I am particularly interested in
Amazonian languages (especially languages from
the North West Amazon) but information on any
language will be most welcome. <br>
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Thanks in advance for your help. Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jorge <o:p></o:p></p>
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1) <b><span style="font-family:"Doulos
SIL"">ʧɨ-bahale</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">
1sg-eye</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">
'my eye'<br>
<br>
2) ileka ʧɨ-kɨkɨd-obe</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">
cassava 1sg-dry-TAM</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Doulos SIL""> 'I
dry cassava'<br>
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3) ʧɨ̃-hãmat-obe</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">
1sg-stand_up-TAM</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Doulos
SIL""> 'I stand up/get up'</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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Jorge Emilio Rosés Labrada<br>
PhD candidate & Vanier Canada Graduate
Scholar<br>
Department of French Studies (Linguistics)<br>
University of Western Ontario<o:p></o:p></p>
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