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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Another example from Europe:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Possessive markers (left) in Hungarian are very similar to the S/A markers in the „objective/definite“ conjugation (right) used with definite objects,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>cf. 1s –Om / -Om<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>2s –Od / -Od<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>3s –(j)A / -jA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>1p –Unk / -jUk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>2p –OtOk /-jAAtOk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>3p -(j)Uk / -jAAk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>It looks as if the “definite” conjugation markers are made of “something else” + possessive/personal suffixes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>----------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Prof. Dr. Martin Joachim Kümmel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Friedrich-Schiller-Universität Jena<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Philosophische Fakultät<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Lehrstuhl für Indogermanistik<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Zwätzengasse 12<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>D-07743 Jena<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Germany<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tel. +49-(0)3641-9443-81 Fax -82 Sekretariat -80<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>E-mail: <a href="mailto:martin-joachim.kuemmel@uni-jena.de">martin-joachim.kuemmel@uni-jena.de</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="http://www.indogermanistik.uni-jena.de/">http://www.indogermanistik.uni-jena.de</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Discussion List for ALT [<a href="mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Jorge Emilio Rosés Labrada<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 19. März 2014 17:07<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Marking of possessor and A and/or S with the same set of affixes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear everyone, <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Mako [wpc] employs the same set of affixes to mark the possessor on the possessed noun (See example (1) below) and to mark the A and the S on the verb (See examples (2) and (3) below). I was wondering if you were familiar with other languages that share this feature (i.e., same set of markers for nominal possession and verbal subject marking) and could let me know. I am particularly interested in Amazonian languages (especially languages from the North West Amazon) but information on any language will be most welcome. <br><br>Thanks in advance for your help. Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jorge <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>1) <b><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL","serif"'>ʧɨ-bahale</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL","serif"'> 1sg-eye</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL","serif"'> 'my eye'<br><br>2) ileka ʧɨ-kɨkɨd-obe</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL","serif"'> cassava 1sg-dry-TAM</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL","serif"'> 'I dry cassava'<br><br>3) ʧɨ̃-hãmat-obe</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL","serif"'> 1sg-stand_up-TAM</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL","serif"'> 'I stand up/get up'</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-- <br>Jorge Emilio Rosés Labrada<br>PhD candidate & Vanier Canada Graduate Scholar<br>Department of French Studies (Linguistics)<br>University of Western Ontario<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>