<div dir="ltr"><div>I appreciate your taking the time to think about and respond to my inquiry. The two examples make me wonder about two things. First, is 'fear' in the second example really lexically causative? Second, if intentionality is a relevant factor, would a form analogous to the first example be unable to be used to express 'The scarecrow frightened the sparrows'? <br><br></div>Thanks again,<br>Chao<br><br><br><div><br><br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, E. Bashir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ebashir@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ebashir@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span>In the case of Hindi or Urdu (probably many other languages as well), the coding differs depenting on whether the causing is intentional or not. For example, the Hindi or Urdu:</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal">
</div><div>us ne mujhe/mujh ko ḍarāyā</div>
<div>3sg-ERG me/me frightened</div>
<div>S/he frightened me. (+ intentionality of causer)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>mãĩ us-se ḍartā hū̃</div>
<div>1sg 3sg-from fear</div>
<div>I fear him/her. (+/- intentionality of causer)</div><div><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal">E. Bashir<br></div>
<div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><br><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Chao Li <<a href="mailto:chao.li@AYA.YALE.EDU" target="_blank">chao.li@AYA.YALE.EDU</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG" target="_blank">LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 26, 2014 9:23 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Coding of Causer and Causee; Causative Psych Verbs<br> </font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear All, <br><br></div>I was wondering whether anyone was aware of (i) any language in which the causer of a causative psych verb like 'frighten' or 'amuse' (or
'annoy'/'irritate') is coded differently from the A(gent) argument of a typical monotransitive verb like 'destroy' or 'catch' OR (ii) any language in which the causee of a causative psych verb is coded differently
from the P(atient) argument of a typical monotransitive verb.<br><br></div>Any information or pointer would be greatly appreciated. <br><br></div>Best regards,<br>Chao<br><br><br></div></div><br><br></div> </div></div></div> </div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>