<div dir="ltr">Also a clarification on Anvita's glossing <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Anvita Abbi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anvitaabbi@gmail.com" target="_blank">anvitaabbi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><i>mujhe Dar hai ki vo aa na jaye</i><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">1sg.Dat fear AUX COMP 3sg come NEG come</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Literal: 'I am afraid that he does not come'</div><font color="#ff0000" face="tahoma, sans-serif"></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><i>aa</i> of course IS 'come' but <i>jaaye</i> (not <i>jaye</i>, n'est pas?) is literally 'go'. And also, sicne Anvita does not label grammatical forms of verbs, <i>aa</i> is a nonfinite verb stem while <i>jaye</i> is subjunctive (or optative of you prefer). BUT more importantly perhaps the construction <i>aa jaye</i> is a PASSIVE. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_signature">Like other commenters I would not pretend to offer any native speaker insights *and in fact, my best Indic language, Nepali, has a very different, purely synthetic, passive). BUT as a speaker of Japanese as well, I am wondering also whether the passive here might complicate things, especially in such cases as this where we are obviously NOT dealing with a canonical passive (<i>aa</i> is an intransitive). What I was wondering is whether in Hindi there might be any of the "acted upon negatively" nuances found w2ith the Japanese passive (e.g. 雨に降られた。 <i>ame ni furareta</i> 'I was rained upon'), in which the negative semantics MIGHT also be interacting with the grammatical negative? (not saying this DOES happen, just that it must be considered as a possibility)<br><br></div><div class="gmail_signature">Of course, an example with an active form of the verb would quickly set us all straight on this ;-)<br></div><div class="gmail_signature"><br>mwm || *U*C> || mike || माईक || માઈક || মাঈক || மாஈக || مایک ||мика || <br></div><div class="gmail_signature">戊流岸マイク <br>(aka Dr Michael W Morgan)<br>sign language instructor / sign language linguist / linguistic typologist<br>PCRV, PC Guyana<br>Deaf Association of Guyana</div></div>
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