<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Here is the grammatical information with phonetic transcription to clear the air. Semantically the two sentences are equal. I don't think that (1) is passive. <br>
<p class="" style="margin-left:14.2pt"><span style><span style>1.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><i style>mujh-e<span style> </span><span style> </span></i><i style><span style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">ɖǝ</span>r<span style> </span>h</i><i style><span style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">ɛ</span><span style> </span>ki<span style> </span>vo <span style> </span>a<span style> </span>na<span style> </span>ja-ye</i></p>
<p class="" style="text-indent:14.2pt"><span style="font-variant:small-caps">1sg-dat</span><span style> </span>fear<span style> </span><span style="font-variant:small-caps">aux</span><span style> </span><span style="font-variant:small-caps">comp<span style> </span>3sg</span><span style> </span>come<span style> </span><span style="font-variant:small-caps">neg</span><span style> </span>go-<span style="font-variant:small-caps">subjunctive</span></p>
<p class="" style="text-indent:14.2pt"><span style="font-variant:small-caps">‘</span>I
am afraid lest he come’ OR ‘I am afraid he might come’</p>
<p class="" style="text-indent:18pt">Sentence 1 is equivalent to sentence 2
with non-negative and future tense.<br></p><p class="" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style><span style>2.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><i style>mujh-e<span style>
</span><span style> </span></i><i style><span style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">ɖǝ</span>r<span style> </span>h</i><i style><span style="font-family:"Doulos SIL"">ɛ</span><span style> </span>ki<span style> </span>vo <span style> </span>a<span style> </span>ja-yega</i></p>
<p class="" style="text-indent:36pt"><span style="font-variant:small-caps">1sg-dat</span><span style> </span>fear<span style> </span><span style="font-variant:small-caps">aux</span><span style> </span><span style="font-variant:small-caps">comp<span style> </span>3sg</span><span style> </span>come<span style> </span>go-<span style="font-variant:small-caps">fut.3msg</span></p>
<p class="" style="text-indent:36pt"><span style="font-variant:small-caps">‘I
</span>afraid that he will come’</p>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Mike Morgan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com" target="_blank">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class="">Also a clarification on Anvita's glossing <br></span><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Anvita Abbi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anvitaabbi@gmail.com" target="_blank">anvitaabbi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><i>mujhe Dar hai ki vo aa na jaye</i><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">1sg.Dat fear AUX COMP 3sg come NEG come</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Literal: 'I am afraid that he does not come'</div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#ff0000"></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><span class=""><div><i>aa</i> of course IS 'come' but <i>jaaye</i> (not <i>jaye</i>, n'est pas?) is literally 'go'. And also, sicne Anvita does not label grammatical forms of verbs, <i>aa</i> is a nonfinite verb stem while <i>jaye</i> is subjunctive (or optative of you prefer). BUT more importantly perhaps the construction <i>aa jaye</i> is a PASSIVE. <br><br></div><div>Like other commenters I would not pretend to offer any native speaker insights *and in fact, my best Indic language, Nepali, has a very different, purely synthetic, passive). BUT as a speaker of Japanese as well, I am wondering also whether the passive here might complicate things, especially in such cases as this where we are obviously NOT dealing with a canonical passive (<i>aa</i> is an intransitive). What I was wondering is whether in Hindi there might be any of the "acted upon negatively" nuances found w2ith the Japanese passive (e.g. 雨に降られた。 <i>ame ni furareta</i> 'I was rained upon'), in which the negative semantics MIGHT also be interacting with the grammatical negative? (not saying this DOES happen, just that it must be considered as a possibility)<br><br></div><div>Of course, an example with an active form of the verb would quickly set us all straight on this ;-)<br></div><div><br>mwm || *U*C> || mike || माईक || માઈક || মাঈক || மாஈக || مایک ||мика || <br></div><div>戊流岸マイク <br>(aka Dr Michael W Morgan)<br>sign language instructor / sign language linguist / linguistic typologist<br>PCRV, PC Guyana<br>Deaf Association of Guyana</div></span></div>
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