<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20897"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20905">For this scenario, I would say, "John told me to be here (imperative) when he carries out (present) the/his (note: definite, not indefinite) new project." <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20948"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20905"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20961" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20905">Elena Bashir (native English speaker)</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20905"></span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20891" style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20890" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20889" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20896" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430483896118_20895" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alexander Letuchiy <alexander_letuchiy@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org" <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 1, 2015 4:08 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Lingtyp] Sequence of tenses and triclausal structures<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2255752751">
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<div dir="ltr">Dear colleagues,<div><br></div><div>There are many languages manifesting 'sequence of tenses' system (e.g., English, Latin and so on). This means that the tense-marking of the matrix verb influences the tense-marking of the embedded verb:</div><div><br></div><div>"John TELLS me that he WILL carry out a new project".</div><div>"John TOLD me that he WOULD carry out a new project". (the tense marking in the embedded clause changes to future in the past, because the verb in the matrix clause is marked for one of the past tenses).</div><div><br></div><div>What I am interested in, are triclausal structures, where the sequence of tense acts from Clause 1 to Clause 3, missing Clause 2, where the verb is marked for a non-alternating form, e.g., infinitive:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">MY QUESTION: Is it true that in languages with sequence of tenses, in structures like:</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">"John TOLD me (Clause 1) to be here (Clause 2) when he WOULD (Clause 3) carry out a new project"</span></div><div><span style="line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">sequence of tenses always acts from Clause 1 to Clause 3, just as in biclausal structures like "John told me that he </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">would carry out a new project"? Or are structures like "John told me to be here when he WILL carry out / CARRIES OUT a new project" also possible?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Any comments and / or examples from people speaking any languages with SoT (including English) are </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">welcome.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Best regards and thanks in advance,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:14.5600004196167px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br>Alexander Letuchiy, Moscow</span></div></div>
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