<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hello,<br><br></div>A group of linguists and students
from the Dynamique du Langage laboratoire in Lyon got together a few years ago to discuss glossing standards in the
different languages they used in their own databases or knew through linguistic descriptions in English, French or Spanish.<br></div>One of the students
(Jérémy Pasquereau) wrote a report on the issues raised and suggestions
made by the group, also taking into account the recommendations made in the Leipzig glossing rules and Interlinear morphemic glossing.<br>The <a href="http://jeremy-pasquereau.jimdo.com/app/download/14488447725/Rapport%20de%20stage%20gloses%28JPasquereau%2919janv11.pdf?t=1477942814" target="_blank">manuscript </a>includes
a list of suggested abbreviations elaborated on the basis of 4
different principles (economy of space, transparency, areal tradition
and representativity) that would work in English, French and Spanish.<br></div><br></div>Best,<br><br></div>Natalia<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"></div>Natalia Cáceres Arandia<br></div><div>Postdoctoral fellow<br></div><div>Linguistics department<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">University of Oregon<br><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br><br><br></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Enrique L. Palancar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:epalancar@hotmail.com" target="_blank">epalancar@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear Emily, </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">As far as my knowledge goes it is a sort of a tacit, unspoken convention of best practices that has been building up slowly by learning from how other people do it, which often involves implementing changes here in there
to better accommodate the peculiarities of the language of study, the changes may catch on or not. I see it a self-evolving enterprise in the scientific community of linguistic typology.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In this connection, by the way, at the CNRS department “Structure et Dynamique des Langues” in Paris-Villejuif, we will start in 2019 a 5-year research programme precisely on theoretical, analytical and practical issues
connected to glossing and </span><span lang="EN-GB">interlinearization</span><span lang="EN-GB">.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES">Enrique</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="ES">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="ES"> Lingtyp [mailto:<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp-bounces@<wbr>listserv.linguistlist.org</a>]
<b>En nombre de </b><a href="mailto:g.corbett@surrey.ac.uk" target="_blank">g.corbett@surrey.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> 05 November 2016 08:41<br>
<b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:ebender@uw.edu" target="_blank">ebender@uw.edu</a><br>
<b>CC:</b> <a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.<wbr>org</a><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Underlying principles of interlinearization</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There’s a brief discussion, following LGR and Lehmann, in <i>
Features </i>(CUP 2012), pages 8-11. There I make the point that glossing has to be relevant to the particular purpose. Linguists typically provide a morphosyntactic gloss; that is, morphological forms are interpreted according to the syntax of the given example.
But in an account of morphology, things have to be different. For instance, in work on syncretism you wouldn’t resolve the syncretisms in the glossing, since that belongs in the discussion. (BTW, suggestions for conventions for paradigms are offered at: <a href="https://www.academia.edu/9055930/Paradigm_conventions" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/<wbr>9055930/Paradigm_conventions</a>.)
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4 Nov 2016, at 20:32, Emily M. Bender <<a href="mailto:ebender@uw.edu" target="_blank">ebender@uw.edu</a>> wrote:</p>
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From: <b>David Inman</b> <<a href="mailto:davinman@uw.edu" target="_blank">davinman@uw.edu</a>><br>
Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM<br>
Subject: Question to LingTyp<br>
To: "Emily M. Bender" <<a href="mailto:ebender@uw.edu" target="_blank">ebender@uw.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When deciding how to create IGT for a particular language, a linguist has to make decisions about where and how to segment morphemes that may not have a standard form in the Leipzig Glossing Rules or elsewhere. There's a lot of work on
interlinearization strategies for particular phenomena, but has anyone written on the underlying principals that guide interlinearization decisions?</p>
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