<div dir="ltr">Hi Hedvig, <div><br></div><div>Quick clarification question since "Pacific" could also be ambiguous: do you mean to include only AN languages? or, do you mean to include all indigenous languages, both AN and non-AN languages, of these three geographic areas? </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Mary</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Mary Elizabeth Walworth, PhD</div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Postdoctoral Researcher in Linguistics<br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution</div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History<br><a href="http://www.shh.mpg.de/employees/51452/25522" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.shh.mpg.de/employees/51452/25522</a><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Visiting Researcher and Instructor</div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Université de la Polynésie française<br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://www.upf.pf/fr" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.upf.pf/fr</a></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Hedvig Skirgård <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hedvig.skirgard@gmail.com" target="_blank">hedvig.skirgard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello again!<div><br></div><div>Thanks for those who have been sending comments and suggestions, let's keep the thread going.</div><div><br></div><div>Just to clarify, when I wrote "oceania" above I did actually refer to the geographic area, i.e. Polynesia + Micronesia + Melanesia. Apologies for the confusion. (In fact, when I was growing up in Sweden, I was taught to also include Australia in this region, but I've since learned that that's not commonly done.) I realise that something like "pacific region" might have been better. Apologies.</div><div><br></div><div>Either way, I'm interested to include languages of Melanesia, Polynesia and Micronesia in this set. </div><div><br></div><div>I'll be working together with colleagues at ANU and in the Grambank project. I'm a PhD student at ANU and one of the researchers at Glottobank.</div><div><br></div><div>/Hedvig</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_6695572786976456464gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt"><b><br></b></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt"><b>***</b></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Tōfā soifua,</b></font></p><span class=""><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><b><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Hedvig Skirgård</font></b></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt"><b><br></b>PhD Candidate<br><span style="color:rgb(196,89,17)">The Wellsprings of Linguistic Diversity</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">ARC Centre of Excellence for the Dynamics of Language</span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">School of Culture, History and Language<br>College of Asia and the Pacific<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">Rm 4203, H.C. Coombs Building (#9)<br>The Australian National University<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">Acton ACT 2601<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">Australia<br><br>Co-chair of Public Relations</span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">Board of the </span><span style="font-size:9pt">International Olympiad of Linguistics</span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><a href="http://www.ioling.org" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:9pt" target="_blank">www.ioling.org</a><br><br><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">Blogger at Humans Who Read Grammars</span></font><br><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px"><a href="http://humans-who-read-grammars.blogspot." target="_blank">http://humans-who-read-<wbr>grammars.blogspot.</a></span></font><br></p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 March 2017 at 16:34, Hedvig Skirgård <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hedvig.skirgard@gmail.com" target="_blank">hedvig.skirgard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1">Dear pacific linguists,</p><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1">What are interesting grammatical typological features for capturing the diversity of Oceania? (Please respond with concrete examples, and respond to the full list :).)</p><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1">I work with a grammatical survey of the world's languages, Grambank, and I'm also personally interested in Oceania in particular for my PhD project. I've been doing some thinking as to what features would be interesting to cover to more accurately capture the grammatical diversity of Oceania in particular, besides the feature set that we already have for the world-sample.</p><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1">One guide are the features that Reesink, Dunn et al used in their publications on Sahul and Melanesia (see attachments and references listed below). They've taken in input from a lot of previous literature and commentary, so it's a good set.</p><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1">Besides those, do you have other suggestions?</p><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1">From a rather Samoan-centric perspective, I'd be inclined to add features like these:</p><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1"></p><ul><li>Is there a "neutral" choice in attributive possession, i.e. not alienable/inalienable, dominant/subordinate?</li><li>Can the agent be expressed as the possessor of the verb instead of encoded in the more canonical ergative/nominative manner?</li><li>Can TA markers be entirely dropped in main clauses?</li><li>Is number of absolute arguments expressed by reduplication on the verb?<br></li></ul><p class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail-p1">Clearly these need further refinement, I just wanted to give some examples. Looking forward to more suggestions!</p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Tōfā soifua,<br></b></font><b><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Hedvig Skirgård</font></b></p><b><br>References:<br></b><p></p>Dunn, Michael, Angela Terrill, Ger Reesink, Robert A. Foley & Stephen C. Levinson. 2005. Structural phylogenetics and the reconstruction of ancient language history. Science 309. 2072–2075. <br><br>Dunn, Michael, Robert A. Foley, Stephen C. Levinson, Ger Reesink & Angela Terrill. 2007. Statistical reasoning in the evaluation of typological diversity in Island Melanesia. Oceanic Linguistics 46(2). 388-403. <br><br>Dunn, Michael, Stephen C. Levinson, Eva Lindström, Ger Reesink, & Angela Terrill. 2008. Structural phylogeny in historical linguistics: Methodological explorations applied in Island Melanesia. Language 84(4). 710-759 <br><br>Reesink, G., Singer, R., & Dunn, M. (2009). Explaining the linguistic diversity of Sahul using population models. PLoS Biology, 7(11), e1000241. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.10002<wbr>41<br><br>Reesink, Ger & Michael Dunn (2012) Systematic typological comparison as a tool for investigating language history. in Nicholas Evans and Marian Klamer (eds) Language Documentation & Conservation Special Publication No. 5 Melanesian Languages on the Edge of Asia: Challenges for the 21st Century. pp. 34–71</div><div><br></div><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_6695572786976456464m_-6802410037675592239gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt"><b><br></b></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt"><b>***</b></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><b><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Hedvig Skirgård</font></b><br></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt"><b><br></b>PhD Candidate<br><span style="color:rgb(196,89,17)">The Wellsprings of Linguistic Diversity</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">ARC Centre of Excellence for the Dynamics of Language</span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">School of Culture, History and Language<br>College of Asia and the Pacific<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">Rm 4203, H.C. 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