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Hi Hedvig,<br>
<br>
in Gil (2015) I define a Mekong-Mamberamo area extending from
Mainland Southeast Asia through the Indonesian archipelago and into
western new Guinea, characterized by 17 features which I've listed
below. In the final section of the paper, I briefly discuss the
extent to which these 17 features "overflow" from the
Mekong-Mamberamo area into Oceania, due to the spread of
Austronesian languages from New Guinea into the Pacific. So you may
wish to follow up on this and examine the extent to which the
languages of Oceania exhibit these features.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
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lang="EN-US">Gil, David (2015) "The Mekong-Mamberamo Linguistic
Area",
in N.J. Enfield and B. Comrie eds., <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">Languages
of Mainland Southeast Asia, The State of the Art</i>, Pacific
Linguistics,
DeGruyter Mouton, Berlin, 266-355.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/04/2017 10:21, Hedvig Skirgård
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<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">What are
interesting grammatical typological features for
capturing the diversity of Oceania? I sent this message
earlier to the mailing list for pacific linguistics, but
I thought I'd try here as well since I didn't get any
response there yet.</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">I work with a
grammatical survey of the world's languages, Grambank,
and I'm also personally interested in Oceania in
particular for my PhD project. I've been doing some
thinking as to what features would be interesting to
cover to more accurately capture the grammatical
diversity of Oceania in particular, besides the feature
set that we already have for the world-sample.</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">One guide are the
features that Reesink, Dunn et al used in their
publications on Sahul and Melanesia (see attachments and
references listed below). They've taken in input from a
lot of previous literature and commentary, so it's a
good set.</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">Besides those, do
you have other suggestions?</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">From a rather
Samoan-centric perspective, I'd be inclined to add
features like these:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is there a "neutral" choice in attributive
possession, i.e. not alienable/inalienable,
dominant/subordinate?</li>
<li>Can the agent be expressed as the possessor of the
verb instead of encoded in the more canonical
ergative/nominative manner?</li>
<li>Can TA markers be entirely dropped in main clauses?</li>
<li>Is number of absolute arguments expressed by
reduplication on the verb?<br>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">Clearly these
need further refinement, I just wanted to give some
examples. Looking forward to more suggestions!</p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font face="arial,
helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Tōfā soifua,<br>
</b></font><b><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif" size="2">Hedvig Skirgård</font></b></p>
<b><br>
References:<br>
</b>Dunn, Michael, Angela Terrill, Ger Reesink, Robert A.
Foley & Stephen C. Levinson. 2005. Structural
phylogenetics and the reconstruction of ancient language
history. Science 309. 2072–2075. <br>
<br>
Dunn, Michael, Robert A. Foley, Stephen C. Levinson, Ger
Reesink & Angela Terrill. 2007. Statistical reasoning
in the evaluation of typological diversity in Island
Melanesia. Oceanic Linguistics 46(2). 388-403. <br>
<br>
Dunn, Michael, Stephen C. Levinson, Eva Lindström, Ger
Reesink, & Angela Terrill. 2008. Structural phylogeny
in historical linguistics: Methodological explorations
applied in Island Melanesia. Language 84(4). 710-759 <br>
<br>
Reesink, G., Singer, R., & Dunn, M. (2009). Explaining
the linguistic diversity of Sahul using population models.
PLoS Biology, 7(11), e1000241. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.<wbr>1000241<br>
<br>
Reesink, Ger & Michael Dunn (2012) Systematic
typological comparison as a tool for investigating
language history. in Nicholas Evans and Marian Klamer
(eds) Language Documentation & Conservation Special
Publication No. 5 Melanesian Languages on the Edge of
Asia: Challenges for the 21st Century. pp. 34–71</div>
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</b>PhD Candidate<br>
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Wellsprings of Linguistic Diversity</span></span></p>
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style="font-size:9pt">ARC Centre of
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<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">What are
interesting grammatical typological features for
capturing the diversity of Oceania? I sent this message
earlier to the mailing list for pacific linguistics, but
I thought I'd try here as well since I didn't get any
response there yet.</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">I work with a
grammatical survey of the world's languages, Grambank,
and I'm also personally interested in Oceania in
particular for my PhD project. I've been doing some
thinking as to what features would be interesting to
cover to more accurately capture the grammatical
diversity of Oceania in particular, besides the feature
set that we already have for the world-sample.</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">One guide are the
features that Reesink, Dunn et al used in their
publications on Sahul and Melanesia (see attachments and
references listed below). They've taken in input from a
lot of previous literature and commentary, so it's a
good set.</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">Besides those, do
you have other suggestions?</p>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">From a rather
Samoan-centric perspective, I'd be inclined to add
features like these:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is there a "neutral" choice in attributive
possession, i.e. not alienable/inalienable,
dominant/subordinate?</li>
<li>Can the agent be expressed as the possessor of the
verb instead of encoded in the more canonical
ergative/nominative manner?</li>
<li>Can TA markers be entirely dropped in main clauses?</li>
<li>Is number of absolute arguments expressed by
reduplication on the verb?<br>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="m_1554752280181880654gmail-p1">Clearly these
need further refinement, I just wanted to give some
examples. Looking forward to more suggestions!</p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font face="arial,
helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Tōfā soifua,<br>
</b></font><b><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif" size="2">Hedvig Skirgård</font></b></p>
<b><br>
References:<br>
</b>Dunn, Michael, Angela Terrill, Ger Reesink, Robert A.
Foley & Stephen C. Levinson. 2005. Structural
phylogenetics and the reconstruction of ancient language
history. Science 309. 2072–2075. <br>
<br>
Dunn, Michael, Robert A. Foley, Stephen C. Levinson, Ger
Reesink & Angela Terrill. 2007. Statistical reasoning
in the evaluation of typological diversity in Island
Melanesia. Oceanic Linguistics 46(2). 388-403. <br>
<br>
Dunn, Michael, Stephen C. Levinson, Eva Lindström, Ger
Reesink, & Angela Terrill. 2008. Structural phylogeny
in historical linguistics: Methodological explorations
applied in Island Melanesia. Language 84(4). 710-759 <br>
<br>
Reesink, G., Singer, R., & Dunn, M. (2009). Explaining
the linguistic diversity of Sahul using population models.
PLoS Biology, 7(11), e1000241. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.<wbr>1000241<br>
<br>
Reesink, Ger & Michael Dunn (2012) Systematic
typological comparison as a tool for investigating
language history. in Nicholas Evans and Marian Klamer
(eds) Language Documentation & Conservation Special
Publication No. 5 Melanesian Languages on the Edge of
Asia: Challenges for the 21st Century. pp. 34–71</div>
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style="font-size:9pt"><b>***</b></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><b><font
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"
size="2">Hedvig Skirgård</font></b><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt"><b><br>
</b>PhD Candidate<br>
<span style="color:rgb(196,89,17)">The
Wellsprings of Linguistic Diversity</span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt">ARC Centre of
Excellence for the Dynamics of Language</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt">School of Culture,
History and Language<br>
College of Asia and the Pacific</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt">Rm 4203, H.C.
Coombs Building (#9)<br>
The Australian National University</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt">Acton ACT 2601</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt">Australia<br>
<br>
Co-chair of Public Relations</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt">Board of the </span><span
style="font-size:9pt">International
Olympiad of Linguistics</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ioling.org"
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:9pt"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.ioling.org">www.ioling.org</a></a><br>
<br>
<font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt">Blogger at
Humans Who Read Grammars</span></font><br>
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style="font-size:12px"><a
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target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://humans-who-read">http://humans-who-read</a>-<wbr>grammars.blogspot.<br>
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