<div dir="ltr">Tobelo (North Halmahera) is similar:<div><br></div><div><div>-riaka ‘older same-sex sibling’</div><div>-dodoto ‘younger same-sex sibling’</div><div>-hiranga ‘opposite-sex sibling’</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Dryer, Matthew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dryer@buffalo.edu" target="_blank">dryer@buffalo.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">While Murdock (1968) discusses the interaction of gender of ego with sibling of same sex vs. sibling of opposite sex, he does not discuss the interaction of these with older vs. younger sibling. There are eight possible relationships by
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<p class="MsoNormal">All three of these parameters are relevant in Walman (a Papuan language in the Torricelli family), but relative age is neutralized for siblings of opposite sex.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp-bounces@listserv.<wbr>linguistlist.org</a>> on behalf of Guillaume Segerer <<a href="mailto:guillaume.segerer@cnrs.fr" target="_blank">guillaume.segerer@cnrs.fr</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 9:41 AM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Lingtyp] Kinship systems that distinguish age but not gender<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p>Hi all<u></u><u></u></p><div><div class="h5">
<p>What Hedwig is looking for is common in West Africa. I can think of Manjaku, Balanta and Bijogo, but RefLex (<a href="http://www.reflex.cnrs.fr" target="_blank">www.reflex.cnrs.fr</a>) also gives interesting results for some Bantu languages, among others. Many languages
(like Joola, Baynunk) have a contrast between "same sex sibling" vs "opposite sex sibling", regardless of age. I have no example in mind of languages having a 4-term contrast combinig the two above features.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le 19/07/2017 à 10:31, Hedvig Skirgård a écrit :<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone know of a language that has a distinction in the kinship system for age of referent (younger/older) without also having a distinction for gender of referent? For example, a language that marks siblings as being younger or older
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<p class="MsoNormal">The hypothesis is that this doesn't happen/is very rare. We'd like to know if you've come across any examples of this.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm asking for my friend Alex (cc:ed) who is not on the list. Please direct any responses or comments to her.<u></u><u></u></p>
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