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Matt beat me to it on Malay/Indonesian! I would just like to add
that while many (most?) varieties that I am familiar with work the
way Matt describes, some exhibit an asymmetry in which elder
siblings are distinguished for gender while younger ones are not.
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adiak - 'younger sibling'<br class="">
uda - 'elder brother'<br class="">
uni - 'elder sister'<br class="">
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<div class="">What about Indonesian/Malay? kakak/adik for elder/younger
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<div class="">Does anyone know of a language that has a distinction
in the kinship system for age of referent
(younger/older) without also having a distinction for
gender of referent? For example, a language that marks
siblings as being younger or older to ego without
reference to being sister or brother.</div>
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