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<div>Apologies for coming late to the discussion. Paluai (Austronesian, Oceanic) has four directly possessed sibling terms:</div>
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<div>Tou-<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>older sibling same sex</div>
<div>Naê-<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>younger sibling same sex</div>
<div>Mwane-<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>sibling of opposite sex, ego female</div>
<div>Patne-<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>sibling of opposite sex, ego male</div>
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<div>Thus, relative age/seniority is relevant for siblings that have the same sex as you, both for males and females. In contrast, for siblings of opposite sex their sex relative to your own is indicated, whereas relative age is irrelevant. An article co-authored
by me and Ton Otto, ‘Relatives and relations in Paluai’, appeared in the June issue of Oceanic Linguistics, and discusses the socio-cultural embedding of this kinship system, including importance of seniority and inheritance rights for same-sex siblings, and
the importance of the brother-sister pair in mortuary exchange ceremonies and elsewhere. It may be of interest to some of you.</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> on behalf of Peter Puxon <<a href="mailto:peter_puxon@soas.ac.uk">peter_puxon@soas.ac.uk</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, 25 July 2017 at 11:26 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Hedvig Skirgård <<a href="mailto:hedvig.skirgard@gmail.com">hedvig.skirgard@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<<a href="mailto:LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a>>" <<a href="mailto:LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org">LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>>, Alexandra Marley <<a href="mailto:alexandra.marley@anu.edu.au">alexandra.marley@anu.edu.au</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Lingtyp] Kinship systems that distinguish age but not gender<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Hedvig,
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<div>It seems perhaps that Iban spoken in Malaysian Borneo makes this distinction:</div>
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<div>aka = 'elder brother / sister'</div>
<div>adi = 'younger brother / sister'</div>
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<div>Iban traditionally is 'utrolocal' meaning that residence on marriage is equally likely to be with the husband / bride's family. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 19 July 2017 at 09:31, Hedvig Skirgård <span dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr">Dear LINGTYP,
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<div>Does anyone know of a language that has a distinction in the kinship system for age of referent (younger/older) without also having a distinction for gender of referent? For example, a language that marks siblings as being younger or older to ego without
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<div>The hypothesis is that this doesn't happen/is very rare. We'd like to know if you've come across any examples of this.</div>
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<div>I'm asking for my friend Alex (cc:ed) who is not on the list. Please direct any responses or comments to her.</div>
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