<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><head><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div>Hi Jeff,</div><div><br></div><div>You may find some examples of this strategy in the following book (Z. Estrada & B. Comrie 2012):</div><div><h1 itemprop="name" class="ydpcf62e3c9bktitle" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.5em; padding: 0px; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1.3em; color: rgb(0, 51, 153); font-family: "Noto sans", Roboto, "Trebuchet MS", verdana, "arial unicode ms", helvetica, sans-serif;"><a href="https://doi.org/10.1075/tsl.102" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_2132668275" style="font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal;">John Benjamins e-Platform: Relative Clauses in Languages of the Americas</a><br></h1></div><div><br></div><div id="ydpf5b1c294enhancr_card_2132668275" class="ydpf5b1c294yahoo-link-enhancr-card ydpf5b1c294yahoo-link-enhancr-not-allow-cover ydpf5b1c294ymail-preserve-class ydpf5b1c294ymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:"Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" data-url="https://doi.org/10.1075/tsl.102" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM" contenteditable="false"><a href="https://doi.org/10.1075/tsl.102" style="text-decoration:none !important;color:#000 !important;" class="ydpf5b1c294yahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" class="ydpf5b1c294card-wrapper ydpf5b1c294yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px;"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" class="ydpf5b1c294card ydpf5b1c294yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px;"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" class="ydpf5b1c294card-info ydpf5b1c294yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:#fff;position:relative;z-index:2;width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0 0 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224, 228, 233);"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:#ffffff;padding:16px 0 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0 0 0 2px;"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:"Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;border-radius:0 0 2px 0;"><h2 class="ydpf5b1c294card-title" style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 0px 6px; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">John Benjamins e-Platform: Relative Clauses in Languages of the Americas</h2><p class="ydpf5b1c294card-description" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(151, 155, 167);">Patterns of relative clause formation tend to vary according to the typological properties of a language. Highly...</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="ydp6cc87231signature">Dra. Lilián Guerrero<br>Seminario de Lenguas Indígenas<br>Instituto de Investigaciones Filológicas<br>Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México<br>Ciudad Universitaria, 04510, México, D.F.<br>Tel. Seminario:(+52)-(55)-5622-7489<br>Fax: (+52)-(55)-5622 7907<br>Página web: http://lilianguerrero.weebly.com, https://unam.academia.edu/LilianGuerrero<div><br><div><div><br></div><div>Lo más importante es no hacer daño, no violentar, no maltratar.... respetar al otro, a todos los otros! </div></div></div></div></div>
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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Lingtyp mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:lingtyp-request@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp-request@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:lingtyp-owner@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp-owner@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Lingtyp digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Relativization (Jeff Siegel)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: Relativization (Christian Lehmann)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: Relativization (Susanne Michaelis)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Relativization (Dryer, Matthew)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:26:31 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Jeff Siegel <<a href="mailto:jsiegel2@une.edu.au" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jsiegel2@une.edu.au</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Lingtyp] Relativization<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:E1F86A0B-849E-4394-AA62-5AF27103E75A@contoso.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">E1F86A0B-849E-4394-AA62-5AF27103E75A@contoso.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Greetings:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">In the description of relativization in WALS (features 122A and 123A), the relative pronoun strategy is shown to stand out “as being typically European since it is not found in Indo-European languages spoken outside Europe, and is exceptional more generally outside Europe” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013). This strategy is defined as follows:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">“[T]he position relativized is indicated inside the relative clause by means of a clause-initial pronominal element, and this pronominal element is case-marked (by case or by an adposition) to indicate the role of the head noun within the relative clause.” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The only language outside the European area shown to use this strategy is Acoma, Keresan language of New Mexico.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Could anyone lead me to examples of the relative pronoun strategy used in other languages outside Europe? Also, could anyone provide such examples from Acoma or related languages? (I can’t seem to find any in the descriptions of Keresan languages that I have examined.)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Reference:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bernard Comrie, Tania Kuteva. 2013. Relativization on Subjects. In: Dryer, Matthew S. & Haspelmath, Martin (eds.). The World Atlas of Language Structures Online. Leipzig: Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.<br></div><div dir="ltr">(Available online at <a href="http://wals.info/chapter/122, " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://wals.info/chapter/122, </a>Accessed on 2018-03-19.)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jeff<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Emeritus Professor Jeff Siegel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Linguistics, School of Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences<br></div><div dir="ltr">University of New England<br></div><div dir="ltr">Armidale, NSW 2351<br></div><div dir="ltr">Australia<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.une.edu.au/staff-profiles/bcss/jsiegel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.une.edu.au/staff-profiles/bcss/jsiegel</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/2c954fb1/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/2c954fb1/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:12:52 +0100<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Christian Lehmann <<a href="mailto:christian.lehmann@uni-erfurt.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">christian.lehmann@uni-erfurt.de</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Relativization<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:c97a7773-acbe-cfdf-9a71-c0a00cac3456@uni-erfurt.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">c97a7773-acbe-cfdf-9a71-c0a00cac3456@uni-erfurt.de</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">A definition taking into account the typological variation, and a survey <br></div><div dir="ltr">of languages that have relative pronouns of various kinds, is in Lehmann <br></div><div dir="ltr">1984, ch. IV.4.2.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Lehmann, Christian 1984,///Der Relativsatz.//Typologie seiner Strukturen <br></div><div dir="ltr">- Theorie seiner Funktionen - Kompendium seiner Grammatik/. Tübingen: G. <br></div><div dir="ltr">Narr (LUS, 2). [PDF <br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="http://www.christianlehmann.eu/publ/Lehmann1984_Der_Relativsatz_OCRed.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.christianlehmann.eu/publ/Lehmann1984_Der_Relativsatz_OCRed.pdf</a>>]<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Greetings,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Christian<br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Prof. em. Dr. Christian Lehmann<br></div><div dir="ltr">Rudolfstr. 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">D - 99092 Erfurt<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Tel.: +49/361/2113417<br></div><div dir="ltr">Fax: +49/361/2113418<br></div><div dir="ltr">E-Post: <a href="mailto:Christian.Lehmann@Uni-Erfurt.De" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Christian.Lehmann@Uni-Erfurt.De</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.christianlehmann.eu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.christianlehmann.eu</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/cda74825/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/cda74825/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:22:57 +0100<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Susanne Michaelis <<a href="mailto:susanne.michaelis@uni-leipzig.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">susanne.michaelis@uni-leipzig.de</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Relativization<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:71d854af-162b-3040-7fb4-8bc4fca0460c@uni-leipzig.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">71d854af-162b-3040-7fb4-8bc4fca0460c@uni-leipzig.de</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Jeff,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Check APiCS chapters 92-94 where quite a few creole/contact languages <br></div><div dir="ltr">(mostly, but not only with European lexifiers) show the relative pronoun <br></div><div dir="ltr">strategy described by Comrie & Kuteva (2005):<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://apics-online.info/parameters/92#2/13.8/10.0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://apics-online.info/parameters/92#2/13.8/10.0</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://apics-online.info/parameters/93#2/13.8/10.0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://apics-online.info/parameters/93#2/13.8/10.0</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://apics-online.info/parameters/94#2/13.8/5.0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://apics-online.info/parameters/94#2/13.8/5.0</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Susanne<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Am 3/19/18 um 1:26 AM schrieb Jeff Siegel:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Greetings:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> In the description of relativization in WALS (features 122A and 123A), <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the relative pronoun strategy is shown to stand out “as being <br></div><div dir="ltr">> typically European since it is not found in Indo-European languages <br></div><div dir="ltr">> spoken outside Europe, and is exceptional more generally outside <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Europe” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013). This strategy is defined as follows:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> “[T]he position relativized is indicated inside the relative clause by <br></div><div dir="ltr">> means of a clause-initial pronominal element, and this pronominal <br></div><div dir="ltr">> element is case-marked (by case or by an adposition) to indicate the <br></div><div dir="ltr">> role of the head noun within the relative clause.” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> The only language outside the European area shown to use this strategy <br></div><div dir="ltr">> is Acoma, Keresan language of New Mexico.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Could anyone lead me to examples of the relative pronoun strategy used <br></div><div dir="ltr">> in other languages outside Europe? Also, could anyone provide such <br></div><div dir="ltr">> examples from Acoma or related languages? (I can’t seem to find any in <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the descriptions of Keresan languages that I have examined.)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Reference:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Bernard Comrie, Tania Kuteva. 2013. Relativization on Subjects. In: <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Dryer, Matthew S. & Haspelmath, Martin (eds.). /The World Atlas of <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Language Structures Online./ Leipzig: Max Planck Institute for <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Evolutionary Anthropology.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> (Available online at <a href="http://wals.info/chapter/122, " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://wals.info/chapter/122, </a>Accessed on <br></div><div dir="ltr">> 2018-03-19.)<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Jeff<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Emeritus Professor Jeff Siegel<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Linguistics, School of Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> University of New England<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Armidale, NSW 2351<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Australia<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://www.une.edu.au/staff-profiles/bcss/jsiegel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.une.edu.au/staff-profiles/bcss/jsiegel</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Lingtyp mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="mailto:Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr">Susanne Maria Michaelis<br></div><div dir="ltr">Projekt Grammatische Universalien<br></div><div dir="ltr">Universität Leipzig (IPF 141199)<br></div><div dir="ltr">Nikolaistraße 8-10<br></div><div dir="ltr">D-04109 Leipzig<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://research.uni-leipzig.de/unicodas/susanne-maria-michaelis/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://research.uni-leipzig.de/unicodas/susanne-maria-michaelis/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution<br></div><div dir="ltr">Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History<br></div><div dir="ltr">Kahlaische Str. 10<br></div><div dir="ltr">07745 Jena<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.shh.mpg.de/person/42386/25522" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.shh.mpg.de/person/42386/25522</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Atlas of Pidgin and Creole Language Structures: <a href="http://apics-online.info/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://apics-online.info/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/8f42f771/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/8f42f771/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:32:07 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Dryer, Matthew" <<a href="mailto:dryer@buffalo.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dryer@buffalo.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Jeff Siegel <<a href="mailto:jsiegel2@une.edu.au" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jsiegel2@une.edu.au</a>>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> "<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Relativization<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <D6D54F88.72CBE%<a href="mailto:dryer@buffalo.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dryer@buffalo.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I would like to point out that it is not uncommon outside of Europe to find relative clauses marked by pronominal words which are not relative pronouns in the sense of Comrie and Kuteva in that they do not exhibit case marking, but are still pronominal in the sense that they vary for pronominal features like gender and/or number.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Matthew<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>>> on behalf of Jeff Siegel <<a href="mailto:jsiegel2@une.edu.au" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jsiegel2@une.edu.au</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jsiegel2@une.edu.au" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jsiegel2@une.edu.au</a>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Monday, March 19, 2018 at 1:26 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Lingtyp] Relativization<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Greetings:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">In the description of relativization in WALS (features 122A and 123A), the relative pronoun strategy is shown to stand out “as being typically European since it is not found in Indo-European languages spoken outside Europe, and is exceptional more generally outside Europe” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013). This strategy is defined as follows:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">“[T]he position relativized is indicated inside the relative clause by means of a clause-initial pronominal element, and this pronominal element is case-marked (by case or by an adposition) to indicate the role of the head noun within the relative clause.” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The only language outside the European area shown to use this strategy is Acoma, Keresan language of New Mexico.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Could anyone lead me to examples of the relative pronoun strategy used in other languages outside Europe? Also, could anyone provide such examples from Acoma or related languages? (I can’t seem to find any in the descriptions of Keresan languages that I have examined.)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Reference:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bernard Comrie, Tania Kuteva. 2013. Relativization on Subjects. In: Dryer, Matthew S. & Haspelmath, Martin (eds.). The World Atlas of Language Structures Online. Leipzig: Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.<br></div><div dir="ltr">(Available online at <a href="http://wals.info/chapter/122, " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://wals.info/chapter/122, </a>Accessed on 2018-03-19.)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jeff<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Emeritus Professor Jeff Siegel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Linguistics, School of Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences<br></div><div dir="ltr">University of New England<br></div><div dir="ltr">Armidale, NSW 2351<br></div><div dir="ltr">Australia<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.une.edu.au/staff-profiles/bcss/jsiegel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.une.edu.au/staff-profiles/bcss/jsiegel</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/bf539db1/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20180319/bf539db1/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Lingtyp mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of Lingtyp Digest, Vol 42, Issue 15<br></div><div dir="ltr">***************************************<br></div></div>
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