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    On 26.03.18 17:16, Heath Jeffrey wrote:<br>
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        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span style="font-size:
            12pt;">As a grammarian I regularly wince at
            typological codings, even if packaged as humble "comparative
            concepts," and I question the value of world-wide
            typological distributions based on them. By the way, the
            situation is worse with "internally-headed relatives."</span></p>
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    <br>
    The question is what goals we are pursuing. Jeffrey Heath has
    written a large number of excellent reference grammars, and for
    these, one does not need worldwide typological distributions.<br>
    <br>
    Relative clauses can be classified in a wide variety of ways, and it
    is not a priori clear which subtypes yield the best insights. But
    some comparative concepts, such as "relative pronoun (strategy)",
    are widely used, so it is good to have clear definitions. And
    according to Comrie & Kuteva's (2005) definition (WALS Chapter
    122), the Koyra Chiini Songhay case qualifies as a relative pronoun,
    because the relativizer <i>kaa</i> is directly followed by
    postpositions (as confirmed by Jeffrey's message).<br>
    <br>
    Typological concepts can thus be rather different from the
    categories used in descriptive grammars (such as "[gap]“), but this
    does not mean that they do not have "value".<br>
    <br>
    In his 2016 opinion piece on "typology vs. type-ology" in LT
    (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/lity.2016.20.issue-3/lingty-2016-0021/lingty-2016-0021.xml">https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/lity.2016.20.issue-3/lingty-2016-0021/lingty-2016-0021.xml</a>),
    Jeffrey Heath recommends "microtypology" instead of Greenbergian
    worldwide typology, and he suggests that generative work on
    microparametric variation "is pointing the way forward". <br>
    <br>
    There is of course nothing to be said against a detailed study of
    Romance or Scandinavian dialect features, but such studies cannot
    lead us to conclusions about Human Language – so I would say that
    anyone who is interested in general linguistics (as opposed to the
    peculiarities of particular areas, families or historical periods)
    cannot do without worldwide typology with its comparative concepts.
    <br>
    <br>
    One need not be interested in general linguistics, but this should
    not be reason to doubt the value of worldwide typology, even if it
    may not have direct relevance to the language-particular studies
    that most linguists (perhaps even most ALT members) are mostly
    pursuing.<br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    Martin<br>
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        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I'm afraid that the
          discussion of Koyra Chiini relatives confirms my doubts about
          the value of crosslinguistic coding into a handful of values
          for each feature.</p>
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        </p>
        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Yes, Koyra Chiini has a
          relative-clause initial morpheme (KCh
          <i>kaa</i>) that gaps the coindexed NP ("headNP [Rel…[gap]…")
          and usually attracts postpositions and if so gaps the PP
          ("headNP [Rel-Postp…[gap]…"). However, resumptive PPs are also
          possible ("headN [Rel…[3Sg/3Pl Postp]…]"). Non-3rd person
          heads (unlike 3rd persons) are optionally resumed even in
          subject position: ("you(headNP) [Rel you…]" meaning 'you
          who…'). The only
          <u>pre</u>position, instrumental-comitative <i>nda</i>,
          cannot precede the relative morpheme (# headNP [[<i>nda</i>
          Rel]…]]), instead it remains in place with a resumptive
          pronoun, or it encliticizes to the Rel morpheme in the fashion
          of English
          <i>where-to/of/upon</i>… . </p>
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        </p>
        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">The major question is
          whether the KCh Rel morpheme is a "pronoun" as opposed to an
          invariant '<span style="font-size: 12pt;">that/when…'</span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-size:
            12pt;">complementizer
          </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">or a pluralizable </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;">relative noun. In Koyra Chiini,
          </span><i style="font-size: 12pt;">kaa</i><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;"> can be either a relative morpheme
            with the limited (pro-)nominal features mentioned above, or
            a 'that/when…' complementizer, and some textual occurrences
            can be read (or at least translated) either way</span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;">. In other Songhay languages, the
            corresponding morpheme can function as either a 'that/when…'
            complementizer or a nominal relative morpheme</span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;">. In the latter function, it
            optionally takes the</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> nominal </span><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;">plural suffix, e.g. Koyraboro Senni
          </span><i style="font-size: 12pt;">kaŋ</i><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;"> with optional indefinite plural
          </span><i style="font-size: 12pt;">kaŋ-yaŋ</i><span
            style="font-size: 12pt;">. Since a head NP (with obligatory
            number marking) is normally present, the option to
            (redundantly) pluralize the relative morpheme is only
            occasionally implemented, but KS </span><i style="font-size:
            12pt;">kaŋ</i><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> is
            clearly noun-like rather than pronoun-like. As in KCh it can
            also be an invariant 'that/when' complementizer. Songhay
            languages  vary as to whether a coindexed clause-internal
            nonsubject NP is realized as a gap, as a pronoun with full
            person/number marking, or as an invariant "3Sg" pronominal. </span></p>
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          color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
          Lingtyp <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org"><lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org></a> on
          behalf of Martin Haspelmath <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haspelmath@shh.mpg.de"><haspelmath@shh.mpg.de></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 26, 2018 9:56:54 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Relativization</font>
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      <div style="background-color:#FFFFFF">I wouldn't say that the
        Koyra Chiini form is "arguably" a relative pronoun, because it's
        a question of definition, not of argumentation. (People
        sometimes say that they "disagree" with terminological choices,
        but I think the verbs "adopt" or "reject" are better suited when
        it comes to talking about other people's terminological
        choices.)<br>
        <br>
        As Matthew noted earlier, in the WALS chapter by Comrie &
        Kuteva, the "relative pronoun strategy" is clearly defined as
        one involving an element that can be flagged for its syntactic
        role (" a clause-initial pronominal element [which] is
        case-marked (by case or by an adposition) to indicate the role
        of the head noun within the relative clause",
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext"
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shash="qldL8ID1+ex8u1DppoO5ccMfKJnSOqdknFxfH+eQfWfuMXleuolGScWMZJAdJi0TYmFJv5ZE2rJfnVN6KD2hjrQ0V7hqQ4Nzo8nCuabhwL5kRY53X/Kr6jfp9c8QD4ubPeCzLdHXSUNLfeYWz2nLH+GLEU9+KNUH8WgEGS6mEvo=">http://wals.info/chapter/122</a>).<br>
        <br>
        Likewise, in the APiCS chapter by Michaelis et al., <span
          class="x_c26">"a relative-clause marker is regarded as a
          relative pronoun if it has different subject and object forms
          ..., or if it can be combined with an adposition</span>" (<a
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originalsrc="http://apics-online.info/parameters/92.chapter.html"
shash="Jb+ymqUswrGzpZ1QD28PrsXl07psRNfBPMGeY8oL8cIYseFrnnC1gENlx2Cy9ogkNWUECfXPGZwkTwFRYA+nPSQTKrXN7t79uW0Q3YcZtsGqhcRyWAHeZQuV8/SsLnVyVtRCC3JCUKDZfFDtxS8rHRV3XgnrUL8CXoDOCxe5TlE=">http://apics-online.info/parameters/92.chapter.html</a>).<br>
        <br>
        Because of these authoritative uses, I would reject (but not
        argue against) a terminological use (in typology) according to
        which relative pronouns are said to include relativizers that
        vary for ("pronominal") features like gender and/or number but
        do not indicate syntactic role. (And if there were an "IPA of
        morphosyntax", as suggested <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdlc.hypotheses.org%2F1000&data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c053f747114afaa68e08d593228d9d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636576698970504650&sdata=vwjM8PkJzdNs05Cq7hi3lI5jMEE9UeKxCn8%2FyAv1U0k%3D&reserved=0"
          originalsrc="https://dlc.hypotheses.org/1000"
shash="sk5oKzXmXJpqPNvmgBrxv5EimVpU21czSYLce1QIE5/M8mUtJmeG5IahiA2h01Wg/SnnKnYJGpDpbpz89uhaYo2PrMnbcP6XZlqiyrPLNN+WtAgBO2OcKcSn9pWVH9WGbZVl1XTUmoInc750ab+W1w2UWUNSnrRzXbt/N9rtN28=">here</a>,
        it should have the same meaning as in the WALS and APiCS
        chapters.)<br>
        <br>
        Thus, from a typological point of view, the relativizers of
        Koyra Chiini and Coast Tsimshian are clearly relative pronouns.<br>
        <br>
        Martin<br>
        <br>
        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 26.03.18 15:27, Dryer, Matthew
          wrote:<br>
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            <p class="x_MsoNormal">In Koyra Chiini (Heath 1999: 192),
              the relative word is arguably a relative pronoun since it
              can occur with a postposition.</p>
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            <p class="x_MsoNormal">Coast Tsimshian has a construction
              which could be analysed as involving a relative pronoun in
              that relative clauses are marked with a word that varies
              for the grammatical relation of the head in the relative
              clause,
              <i>gu</i> if it is the A,<i> in</i> if it is the S or P
              (Mulder 1994: 142).</p>
            <p class="x_MsoNormal"> </p>
            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Heath,
                Jeffrey. (1999) <i>A grammar of Koyra Chiini: The
                  Songhay of Timbuktu</i>. Berlin: Mouton de Gruyter.</span></p>
            <p class="x_MsoNormal"> </p>
            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mulder,
                Jean Gail. (1994) <i>
                  Ergativity in Coast Tsimshian (Sm’algyax)</i>.
                Berkeley: University of California Press.</span></p>
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            <span style="font-size:11.0pt">Matthew</span>    </div>
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              <span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Lingtyp <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>>
              on behalf of Bernard Comrie <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:comrie@linguistics.ucsb.edu">comrie@linguistics.ucsb.edu</a>><br>
              <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, March
              26, 2018 at 3:40 AM<br>
              <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>"
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>><br>
              <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
              [Lingtyp] Relativization<br>
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                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Dear
                    Jeff:</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Some
                    thoughts on your post.</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">The
                    chapters in WALS are necessarily very brief, so
                    often it will be necessary to look at other
                    literature.</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">As
                    many people have noted, including me back in an
                    early publication on European-type relative clauses
                    (Comrie 1998: 79), the European-type relative clause
                    has recently (e.g. through colonialism) spread
                    through contact to languages outside Europe. These
                    are of course not independent instances of the
                    development of this kind of relative clause.</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">I
                    went into somewhat more detail on possible
                    independent candidates for European-type relative
                    clauses in Comrie (2006). If you compare this
                    article with WALS, please note that the publication
                    details are misleading; some points discussed in the
                    2006 article that came up during preparatory work on
                    WALS did not find their way into the final version
                    of WALS.</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Regarding
                    your specific question on Acoma: I'll need to check,
                    as I don't have the relevant data immediately to
                    hand.</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Best,</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Bernard</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">References</span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Comrie,
                    B. 1998. </span>Rethinking the typology of relative
                  clauses.
                  <i style="">Language Design</i> 1: 59-86.</p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal"> </p>
                <p class="x_MsoNormal">Comrie, B. 2006. Syntactic
                  typology: just how exotic ARE European-type relative
                  clauses? In Ricardo Mairal and Juana Gil (eds.):
                  <i style="">Linguistic Universals</i>, 130-154.
                  Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.<span style=""
                    lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 2018/3/18 17:26, Jeff
                  Siegel wrote:<br>
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                    <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt">In the description of
                        relativization in WALS (features 122A and 123A),
                        the relative pronoun strategy is shown to stand
                        out “as
                      </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">being
                        typically European since it is not found in
                        Indo-European languages spoken outside Europe,
                        and is exceptional more generally outside
                        Europe” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013). This
                        strategy is defined as follows:</span></p>
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt">[T]he position
                        relativized is indicated inside the relative
                        clause by means of a clause-initial pronominal
                        element, and this pronominal element is
                        case-marked (by case or by an adposition) to
                        indicate the role of the head noun within the
                        relative clause.” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013)</span></p>
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">The only language
                        outside the European area shown to use this
                        strategy is Acoma, Keresan language of New
                        Mexico.
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Could anyone lead me to
                        examples of the relative pronoun strategy used
                        in other languages outside Europe? Also, could
                        anyone provide such examples from Acoma or
                        related languages? (I can’t seem to find any in
                        the descriptions of Keresan languages that I
                        have examined.)</span></p>
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Reference:</span></p>
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                    <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Bernard Comrie, Tania
                        Kuteva. 2013. Relativization on Subjects. In:
                        Dryer, Matthew S. & Haspelmath, Martin
                        (eds.).
                        <i>The World Atlas of Language Structures
                          Online.</i> Leipzig: Max Planck Institute for
                        Evolutionary Anthropology. <br>
                        (Available online at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Many thanks,</span></p>
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,</span></p>
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                    <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Emeritus Professor Jeff
                        Siegel</span></p>
                    <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Linguistics, School of
                        Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences</span></p>
                    <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt">University of New
                        England</span></p>
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Armidale, NSW 2351</span></p>
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                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Australia</span></p>
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Distinguished Faculty Professor of Linguistics, University of California Santa Barbara

E-mail: comrie at linguistics.ucsb.edu
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Department of Linguistics
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Martin Haspelmath (<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:haspelmath@shh.mpg.de">haspelmath@shh.mpg.de</a>)
Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
Kahlaische Strasse 10   
D-07745 Jena  
&
Leipzig University 
IPF 141199
Nikolaistrasse 6-10
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Martin Haspelmath (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:haspelmath@shh.mpg.de">haspelmath@shh.mpg.de</a>)
Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
Kahlaische Strasse 10   
D-07745 Jena  
&
Leipzig University 
IPF 141199
Nikolaistrasse 6-10
D-04109 Leipzig    





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