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On 26.03.18 17:16, Heath Jeffrey wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span style="font-size:
12pt;">As a grammarian I regularly wince at
typological codings, even if packaged as humble "comparative
concepts," and I question the value of world-wide
typological distributions based on them. By the way, the
situation is worse with "internally-headed relatives."</span></p>
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The question is what goals we are pursuing. Jeffrey Heath has
written a large number of excellent reference grammars, and for
these, one does not need worldwide typological distributions.<br>
<br>
Relative clauses can be classified in a wide variety of ways, and it
is not a priori clear which subtypes yield the best insights. But
some comparative concepts, such as "relative pronoun (strategy)",
are widely used, so it is good to have clear definitions. And
according to Comrie & Kuteva's (2005) definition (WALS Chapter
122), the Koyra Chiini Songhay case qualifies as a relative pronoun,
because the relativizer <i>kaa</i> is directly followed by
postpositions (as confirmed by Jeffrey's message).<br>
<br>
Typological concepts can thus be rather different from the
categories used in descriptive grammars (such as "[gap]“), but this
does not mean that they do not have "value".<br>
<br>
In his 2016 opinion piece on "typology vs. type-ology" in LT
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/lity.2016.20.issue-3/lingty-2016-0021/lingty-2016-0021.xml">https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/lity.2016.20.issue-3/lingty-2016-0021/lingty-2016-0021.xml</a>),
Jeffrey Heath recommends "microtypology" instead of Greenbergian
worldwide typology, and he suggests that generative work on
microparametric variation "is pointing the way forward". <br>
<br>
There is of course nothing to be said against a detailed study of
Romance or Scandinavian dialect features, but such studies cannot
lead us to conclusions about Human Language – so I would say that
anyone who is interested in general linguistics (as opposed to the
peculiarities of particular areas, families or historical periods)
cannot do without worldwide typology with its comparative concepts.
<br>
<br>
One need not be interested in general linguistics, but this should
not be reason to doubt the value of worldwide typology, even if it
may not have direct relevance to the language-particular studies
that most linguists (perhaps even most ALT members) are mostly
pursuing.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Martin<br>
<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I'm afraid that the
discussion of Koyra Chiini relatives confirms my doubts about
the value of crosslinguistic coding into a handful of values
for each feature.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Yes, Koyra Chiini has a
relative-clause initial morpheme (KCh
<i>kaa</i>) that gaps the coindexed NP ("headNP [Rel…[gap]…")
and usually attracts postpositions and if so gaps the PP
("headNP [Rel-Postp…[gap]…"). However, resumptive PPs are also
possible ("headN [Rel…[3Sg/3Pl Postp]…]"). Non-3rd person
heads (unlike 3rd persons) are optionally resumed even in
subject position: ("you(headNP) [Rel you…]" meaning 'you
who…'). The only
<u>pre</u>position, instrumental-comitative <i>nda</i>,
cannot precede the relative morpheme (# headNP [[<i>nda</i>
Rel]…]]), instead it remains in place with a resumptive
pronoun, or it encliticizes to the Rel morpheme in the fashion
of English
<i>where-to/of/upon</i>… . </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">The major question is
whether the KCh Rel morpheme is a "pronoun" as opposed to an
invariant '<span style="font-size: 12pt;">that/when…'</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-size:
12pt;">complementizer
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">or a pluralizable </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">relative noun. In Koyra Chiini,
</span><i style="font-size: 12pt;">kaa</i><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> can be either a relative morpheme
with the limited (pro-)nominal features mentioned above, or
a 'that/when…' complementizer, and some textual occurrences
can be read (or at least translated) either way</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">. In other Songhay languages, the
corresponding morpheme can function as either a 'that/when…'
complementizer or a nominal relative morpheme</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">. In the latter function, it
optionally takes the</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> nominal </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">plural suffix, e.g. Koyraboro Senni
</span><i style="font-size: 12pt;">kaŋ</i><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> with optional indefinite plural
</span><i style="font-size: 12pt;">kaŋ-yaŋ</i><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">. Since a head NP (with obligatory
number marking) is normally present, the option to
(redundantly) pluralize the relative morpheme is only
occasionally implemented, but KS </span><i style="font-size:
12pt;">kaŋ</i><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> is
clearly noun-like rather than pronoun-like. As in KCh it can
also be an invariant 'that/when' complementizer. Songhay
languages vary as to whether a coindexed clause-internal
nonsubject NP is realized as a gap, as a pronoun with full
person/number marking, or as an invariant "3Sg" pronominal. </span></p>
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Lingtyp <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org"><lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org></a> on
behalf of Martin Haspelmath <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haspelmath@shh.mpg.de"><haspelmath@shh.mpg.de></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 26, 2018 9:56:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Relativization</font>
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<div style="background-color:#FFFFFF">I wouldn't say that the
Koyra Chiini form is "arguably" a relative pronoun, because it's
a question of definition, not of argumentation. (People
sometimes say that they "disagree" with terminological choices,
but I think the verbs "adopt" or "reject" are better suited when
it comes to talking about other people's terminological
choices.)<br>
<br>
As Matthew noted earlier, in the WALS chapter by Comrie &
Kuteva, the "relative pronoun strategy" is clearly defined as
one involving an element that can be flagged for its syntactic
role (" a clause-initial pronominal element [which] is
case-marked (by case or by an adposition) to indicate the role
of the head noun within the relative clause",
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<br>
Likewise, in the APiCS chapter by Michaelis et al., <span
class="x_c26">"a relative-clause marker is regarded as a
relative pronoun if it has different subject and object forms
..., or if it can be combined with an adposition</span>" (<a
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<br>
Because of these authoritative uses, I would reject (but not
argue against) a terminological use (in typology) according to
which relative pronouns are said to include relativizers that
vary for ("pronominal") features like gender and/or number but
do not indicate syntactic role. (And if there were an "IPA of
morphosyntax", as suggested <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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it should have the same meaning as in the WALS and APiCS
chapters.)<br>
<br>
Thus, from a typological point of view, the relativizers of
Koyra Chiini and Coast Tsimshian are clearly relative pronouns.<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 26.03.18 15:27, Dryer, Matthew
wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">In Koyra Chiini (Heath 1999: 192),
the relative word is arguably a relative pronoun since it
can occur with a postposition.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Coast Tsimshian has a construction
which could be analysed as involving a relative pronoun in
that relative clauses are marked with a word that varies
for the grammatical relation of the head in the relative
clause,
<i>gu</i> if it is the A,<i> in</i> if it is the S or P
(Mulder 1994: 142).</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Heath,
Jeffrey. (1999) <i>A grammar of Koyra Chiini: The
Songhay of Timbuktu</i>. Berlin: Mouton de Gruyter.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mulder,
Jean Gail. (1994) <i>
Ergativity in Coast Tsimshian (Sm’algyax)</i>.
Berkeley: University of California Press.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Matthew</span> </div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Lingtyp <<a
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on behalf of Bernard Comrie <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, March
26, 2018 at 3:40 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[Lingtyp] Relativization<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Dear
Jeff:</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Some
thoughts on your post.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">The
chapters in WALS are necessarily very brief, so
often it will be necessary to look at other
literature.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">As
many people have noted, including me back in an
early publication on European-type relative clauses
(Comrie 1998: 79), the European-type relative clause
has recently (e.g. through colonialism) spread
through contact to languages outside Europe. These
are of course not independent instances of the
development of this kind of relative clause.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">I
went into somewhat more detail on possible
independent candidates for European-type relative
clauses in Comrie (2006). If you compare this
article with WALS, please note that the publication
details are misleading; some points discussed in the
2006 article that came up during preparatory work on
WALS did not find their way into the final version
of WALS.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Regarding
your specific question on Acoma: I'll need to check,
as I don't have the relevant data immediately to
hand.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Best,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Bernard</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">References</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Comrie,
B. 1998. </span>Rethinking the typology of relative
clauses.
<i style="">Language Design</i> 1: 59-86.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Comrie, B. 2006. Syntactic
typology: just how exotic ARE European-type relative
clauses? In Ricardo Mairal and Juana Gil (eds.):
<i style="">Linguistic Universals</i>, 130-154.
Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.<span style=""
lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 2018/3/18 17:26, Jeff
Siegel wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-AU">Greetings:</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">In the description of
relativization in WALS (features 122A and 123A),
the relative pronoun strategy is shown to stand
out “as
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">being
typically European since it is not found in
Indo-European languages spoken outside Europe,
and is exceptional more generally outside
Europe” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013). This
strategy is defined as follows:</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">[T]he position
relativized is indicated inside the relative
clause by means of a clause-initial pronominal
element, and this pronominal element is
case-marked (by case or by an adposition) to
indicate the role of the head noun within the
relative clause.” (Comrie & Kuteva 2013)</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">The only language
outside the European area shown to use this
strategy is Acoma, Keresan language of New
Mexico.
</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Could anyone lead me to
examples of the relative pronoun strategy used
in other languages outside Europe? Also, could
anyone provide such examples from Acoma or
related languages? (I can’t seem to find any in
the descriptions of Keresan languages that I
have examined.)</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Reference:</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Bernard Comrie, Tania
Kuteva. 2013. Relativization on Subjects. In:
Dryer, Matthew S. & Haspelmath, Martin
(eds.).
<i>The World Atlas of Language Structures
Online.</i> Leipzig: Max Planck Institute for
Evolutionary Anthropology. <br>
(Available online at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Many thanks,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Emeritus Professor Jeff
Siegel</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Linguistics, School of
Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">University of New
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Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
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Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
Kahlaische Strasse 10
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IPF 141199
Nikolaistrasse 6-10
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