<div dir="ltr">Dear Rasmus,<div><br></div><div>In case you haven't come across the work of Naomi Nagy, she is someone who's been thinking about the issue of a "sociogrammar" for a long time. Here's a reference to one of her articles on this topic:</div><div><ul><li>Nagy, N. 2009. <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The challenges of less commonly studied languages: Writing a Sociogrammar of Faetar</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">. In J. Stanford & D. Preston, eds. </span><em style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Variation in Indigenous Minority Languages</em><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">. Philadelphia:</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">John Benjamins</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">. </span><em style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Impact</em><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> series, vol. 25. 397-417.</span><br></li></ul><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I am very much interested in this topic as I am documenting a language with a lot of dialectal and intergenerational variation (namely, Piaroa, an Amazonian language of Colombia and Venezuela) so if people reply off-list, would you be so kind as to send a summary of the responses to the list?</font></div></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Best,</font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Jorge</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394">-------------</font></div><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394">Jorge Emilio Rosés Labrada</font></div><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394">Assistant Professor, Indigenous Language Sustainability</font></div><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394">Department of Linguistics</font></div><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394">University of Alberta</font></div><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394">Tel: (+1) 780-492-5698</font></div><div><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394"><a href="mailto:jrosesla@ualberta.ca" target="_blank">jrosesla@ualberta.ca</a> </font></div><div><font size="1" color="#0b5394"><br></font></div><div><font size="1"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#0b5394"><b>The University of Alberta acknowledges that we are located on Treaty 6 territory, </b></font></span><b style="color:rgb(11,83,148);font-family:Arial,sans-serif">and respects the history, languages, and cultures of the First Nations, Métis, Inuit, </b><b style="color:rgb(11,83,148);font-family:Arial,sans-serif">and all First Peoples of Canada, whose presence continues to enrich our institution.</b></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Rasmus Bernander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rasmusbernander@gmail.com" target="_blank">rasmusbernander@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10.66px"><span lang="EN-US" style="margin:0px"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri" size="3">Dear members
of the Lingtyp list,</font></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10.66px"><span lang="EN-US" style="margin:0px"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">I’m
currently involved in a project called “Linguistic Variation as an Indicator of
Historical Relations and Language Contact: A Comparative grammar of four Mara
Bantu languages (Tanzania)”. The project is funded by Koneen Säätiö and led by
Dr. Lotta Aunio, Department of Languages, University of Helsinki. As implied in
the title, the project aims at offering a linguistic description of four
closely related (yet structurally versatile) Bantu varieties, Ikoma, Nata,
Isenye and Ngoreme (known collectively as the Western Serengeti languages).<span style="margin:0px"> </span>More information about the project can be
found at this homepage: </font><span style="margin:0px"><a href="https://blogs.helsinki.fi/mara-project/" target="_blank"><font color="#0563c1">https://blogs.helsinki.fi/<wbr>mara-project/</font></a></span></font></font></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10.66px"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="margin:0px"><font color="#000000">We are
struggling a bit with the question about the ideal way of designing the
linguistic description. We would like to ask you ”Humans who read grammars”,
i.e. you researchers who make typological (and/or comparative and/or specific
theoretical) work and thus have great experience in reading grammars as well as
extracting information from grammars: What would you consider being the most
helpful and straightforward way to organize the structure of a multilectal
grammar of this kind?</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="margin:0px;color:black"> We would prefer to find a way to systemize the data
in a manner where we don’t have to prioritize one variety over the others and
where we can also present the subsystems of the non-main varieties in a
coherent way.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="margin:0px"><font color="#000000"> It seems
that some grammars use color/symbol coding for different varieties. Do you
consider that helpful? Or do you have other, similar ideas on how one would
succeed in creating a really clear and comprehensible comparative grammar?</font></span></font></font></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10.66px"><span lang="EN-US" style="margin:0px"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri" size="3">Many thanks
in advance!</font></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10.66px"><span lang="EN-US" style="margin:0px"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri" size="3">/Rasmus
Bernander</font></span></p>
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