<div dir="ltr">I would also recommend Ruth Wester's work on Awyu-Dumut languages.<div><br></div><div>Best</div><div>Matt</div><div><br></div><div>Matthew J Carroll</div><div>Newton International Fellow</div><div>Surrey Morphology Group</div><div><a href="http://www.matthewjcarroll.com">www.matthewjcarroll.com</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:44 AM Guillaume Jacques <<a href="mailto:rgyalrongskad@gmail.com">rgyalrongskad@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">

<span style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px;float:none;display:inline">Dear Ilja,</span><div><span style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">In Northern America, person indexation is reconstructable for many language families. </span><br></div><div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">For Algonquian, Bloomfield, Goddard and a few other scholars have establiushed a very rigorous system of reconstruction. A very useful and up to date introduction is found in Will Oxford's dissertation:</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~oxfordwr/papers/Oxford_William_201406_PhD_thesis.pdf" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~oxfordwr/papers/Oxford_William_201406_PhD_thesis.pdf</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">If you are also interested in portmanteau morphemes indexing both subject and object, this chapter could also be useful:</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><div>Jacques, Guillaume & Anton Antonov. 2018. The direction(s) of analogical change in direct/inverse systems. In Fernando Zúñiga &</div><div>Sonia Cristofaro (eds.), Typological hierarchies in synchrony and diachrony, 259–289. Amsterdam: Benjamins.</div></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/6776948/The_direction_s_of_analogical_change_in_direct_inverse_systems" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/6776948/The_direction_s_of_analogical_change_in_direct_inverse_systems</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">For Siouan, Bob Rankin and John Koontz in particular have made important contributions to the reconstruction of person indexation markers, most of it is however spread over various unpublished paper (see also the Comparative Siouan Dictionary, <a href="http://csd.clld.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://csd.clld.org/</a>). Among the most recent contributions on the reconstruction of person indexation in Siouan, see (in the same issue of IJAL as Jorge Labrada's article on Saliban mentioned above):</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><div>Jacques, Guillaume. 2016. On the directionality of analogy in a Dhegiha paradigm. International Journal of American Linguistics 8(2):239–248.</div></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/12796953/On_the_directionality_of_analogy_in_a_Dhegiha_paradigm" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/12796953/On_the_directionality_of_analogy_in_a_Dhegiha_paradigm</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">Additionally, the following unpublished paper could also be useful at least for its reference list (I can provide PDF of articles on demand): <a href="https://www.academia.edu/3758247/Siouan_irregular_inflections" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/3758247/Siouan_irregular_inflections</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">On the other side of the Pacific, in the Sino-Tibetan/Trans-Himalayan family, there is, as mentioned by Randy above, a debate concerning the antiquity of the indexation system. It is no secret that my views are radically opposed to those of Randy, and expressed in particular in the following articles:</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><div>Jacques, Guillaume. 2012. Agreement morphology: the case of Rgyalrongic and Kiranti. Language and Linguistics 13(1). 83–116.</div></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/1526166/Agreement_morphology_the_case_of_Rgyalrongic_and_Kiranti" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/1526166/Agreement_morphology_the_case_of_Rgyalrongic_and_Kiranti</a></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">Jacques, Guillaume. 2016. Le sino-tibétain: polysynthétique ou isolant? Faits de langues 47(1). 61–74.<br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30377206/Le_sino-tib%C3%A9tain_polysynth%C3%A9tique_ou_isolant" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/30377206/Le_sino-tib%C3%A9tain_polysynth%C3%A9tique_ou_isolant</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">See also a series of recent articles by Scott DeLancey including:</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">DeLancey, Scott 2013. The history of postverbal agreement in Kuki-Chin. Journal of the Southeast Asian Linguistics Society 6:1-17<br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/9718/5/DeLancey_HistoryPostverbal2013.pdf" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/9718/5/DeLancey_HistoryPostverbal2013.pdf</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">DeLancey, Scott<span> </span></span>  2014 Second person verb forms in Tibeto-Burman. Linguistics of the Tibeto-Burman Area 37 (1), 3-33</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.dartmouth.edu/dist/9/82/files/2013/07/DeLanceyfullpaper.pdf" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.dartmouth.edu/dist/9/82/files/2013/07/DeLanceyfullpaper.pdf</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline">DeLancey, Scott<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"> </span><span> </span>2015 The historical dynamics of morphological complexity in Trans-Himalayan. Linguistic Discovery13 (2): 37–56.<br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/1/xmlpage/1/document/1016" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/1/xmlpage/1/document/1016</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">More specifically on Tangut, Randy LaPolla, who relies on second- or third-hand sources for his information, is not a reliable source. The following articles, based on a first-hand knowledge of Tangut texts, could have some usefulness:<br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">Jacques, Guillaume. 2009. The Origin of Vowel Alternations in the Tangut Verb. Language and Linguistics 10(1). 17–28.<br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://www.ling.sinica.edu.tw/Files/LL/Docments/Journals/10.1/j2009_1_02_2996.pdf" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.ling.sinica.edu.tw/Files/LL/Docments/Journals/10.1/j2009_1_02_2996.pdf</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><div>Jacques, Guillaume. 2016. Tangut, Gyalrongic, Kiranti and the nature of person indexation in Sino-Tibetan/Trans-Himalayan. Linguistics</div><div>Vanguard doi:10.1515/lingvan-2015-0033.</div></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/25078877/Tangut_Gyalrongic_Kiranti_and_the_nature_of_person_indexation_in_Sino-Tibetan_Trans-Himalayan" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/25078877/Tangut_Gyalrongic_Kiranti_and_the_nature_of_person_indexation_in_Sino-Tibetan_Trans-Himalayan</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">Gong Xun, 2017. Verb stems in Tangut and their orthography, Scripta 9:29-48.</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/33277842/Verb_stems_in_Tangut_and_their_orthography" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/33277842/Verb_stems_in_Tangut_and_their_orthography</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">However, regardless of the actual antiquity of person indexation, there is not yet a complete reconstruction system either for Gyalrongic or for Kiranti, though we are working on it. Person indexation affixes (and stem alternation that contributes to the indexation of person) have unique correspondences, and we still have a long way before we can explain the forms in a neogrammarian framework. To have an idea of how complex the problem is just for a subgroup (Khaling-Dumi-Koyi) of Kiranti, see:</div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">Jacques, Guillaume. 2016. Tonogenesis and tonal alternations in Khaling. In Enrique L. Palancar & Jean Léo Léonard (eds.), Tone and Inflection, 41–66. Berlin: Mouton De Gruyter.<br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/10516416/Tonogenesis_and_tonal_alternations_in_Khaling" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/10516416/Tonogenesis_and_tonal_alternations_in_Khaling</a><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px">Guillaume</div><div class="m_-4389364643874801668gmail-yj6qo m_-4389364643874801668gmail-ajU" style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;outline:none;padding:10px 0px;width:22px;margin:2px 0px 0px;font-size:12.8px"><br class="m_-4389364643874801668gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-06-19 21:52 GMT+02:00 Ilja Seržant<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear all,<br><br>I am looking for families (or subfamilies with a larger time depth) for which verbal person-number subject indexes / "agreement" affixes (featuring the intransitive subject for ergative lgs.) are reconstructed. (I already have data on Dravidian, Semitic, Indo-European, Maya, Finno-Ugric and Turkic but I need more for my study on the dynamics of these).<br><br>I would be very grateful for any reference.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Ilja<br><br><br>--<span> </span><br>Ilja A. Seržant, postdoc<br>Project "Grammatical Universals"<br>Universität Leipzig (IPF 141199)<br>Nikolaistraße 6-10<br>04109 Leipzig<br><br>URL:<span> </span><a href="http://home.uni-leipzig.de/serzant/" rel="noreferrer" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://home.uni-leipzig.de/serzant/</a><br><br>Tel.: + 49 341 97 37713<br>Room 5.22<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lingtyp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br><a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp" rel="noreferrer" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>--<span> </span><br><div class="m_-4389364643874801668gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Guillaume Jacques<br>CNRS (CRLAO) 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<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-06-19 21:52 GMT+02:00 Ilja Seržant <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de" target="_blank">ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear all,<br>
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I am looking for families (or subfamilies with a larger time depth) for which verbal person-number subject indexes / "agreement" affixes (featuring the intransitive subject for ergative lgs.) are reconstructed. (I already have data on Dravidian, Semitic, Indo-European, Maya, Finno-Ugric and Turkic but I need more for my study on the dynamics of these).<br>
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I would be very grateful for any reference.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Ilja<br>
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-- <br>
Ilja A. Seržant, postdoc<br>
Project "Grammatical Universals"<br>
Universität Leipzig (IPF 141199)<br>
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04109 Leipzig<br>
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