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<p>Adam,<br>
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<p>What about the English matrix verbs in constructions such as the
following:<br>
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(1) I see you're interested in diachrony in synchronic analysis<br>
(2) I think it's going to rain</p>
<p>and several others. It seems pretty clear that the above
examples are bo-clausal. But in (1), matrix verb "see" is no
longer exclusively visual; the sentence would remain felicitous if
the source of the speaker's knowledge were audial, i.e. through
oral speech. In sentence (2), the difference is a bit more
subtle, but it seems to me that here matrix verb "think" is
bleached of its original meaning and instead assumes a meaning
more like "be of the opinion that". (Interestingly, colloquial
Malay/Indonesian dialects vary in this regard; while some allow
constructions like (2), others don't.)</p>
<p>David<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/11/2018 01:30, Adam James Ross
Tallman wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:#4c1130">I have
been wondering about the importance of diachrony in synchronic
analysis, and I have question. It seems to be generally true
that biclausal structures can become monoclausal structures
over time and not the reverse. I wonder if people know of
cases where matrix verbs develop specialized meanings in
complement/subordinating constructions, like we would expect
of semantically bleaching auxiliaries, without the
construction becoming unambiguously monoclausal. </div>
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whatever structure stage 2 has, it simply retains aspects of
biclausality without being reanalyzed as in stage 3 or if, for
instance, the structure just never develops into a monoclausal
one because it simply falls out of use.</div>
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style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:#4c1130">1.
[[...V...]...V] -> 2. ?[[...V...]..."AUX/V"...]? -> 3.
[...V...AUX...] </div>
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wondering whether it is safe to assume if in some
construction ...V...AUX... where we decide AUX is distinct
from its source V because its semantics are have diverged
(or bleached), then we <b>can always assume the structure
must be monoclausal regardless of any structural
properties that make it look biclausal</b> (i.e. its been
reanalyzed without any structural facts that suggest
actualization) because of the universal monoclausal ->
biclausal trend. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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if this is a little abstract; help would be greatly
appreciated.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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