<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20500">ِIn Urdu, for a person to be successful in doing something can be expressed as:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20501"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20496">X-ko Y-me~ kaamyaabii huii</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20499">X (person)-DAT Y(effort)-in success became</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20497">Y was successful in (doing) Y.</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20498"><br>With best wishes,</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20502">Elena Bashir, Senior Lecturer in Urdu</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20503">The University of Chicago</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20504"><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20389" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20388"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20387"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20386"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20390"> <hr size="1"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20520"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20519">From:</span></b> Ludwig Paul <ludwig.paul@uni-hamburg.de><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 2, 2019 1:46 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20522"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20521">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lingtyp] Verbs of success with dative subject<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546455192577_20391"><br>Dear Spike,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I could not find the discussion or the answers to your question in the <br clear="none">list, maybe this is a repetition: there is the German verbal <br clear="none">expression "mir (Dat.) gelingt etwas", i.e. I am successful in (doing) <br clear="none">sth.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Best,<br clear="none">Ludwig<br clear="none"><div class="yqt2293037098" id="yqtfd50432"><br clear="none">Zitat von Spike Gildea <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:spike@uoregon.edu" href="mailto:spike@uoregon.edu">spike@uoregon.edu</a>>:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Dear colleagues,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I forward a query from my colleague, Jóhanna Barðdal, who is looking <br clear="none">> for examples of predicates of "success” with non canonical subject <br clear="none">> marking, in particular those that take a dative subject.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> We are working on Indo-European verbs/predicates with the meanings <br clear="none">> 'succeed', 'be successful', 'make progress', 'turn out well', 'go <br clear="none">> well'. The last one in the sense "he is doing well in his dance <br clear="none">> class" or even "he is doing well in life”.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Thank you in advance for indications of other places in the world <br clear="none">> where we might find such predicates taking a dative subject!<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Best,<br clear="none">> Spike<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Lingtyp mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" href="mailto:Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>