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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>I apologize for a side remark. But do we call any kind of
argumental and non-argumental animate (experiencer) dative NP a
non-canonical <b>subject</b>? :-) Does it really make sense to
use the notion of subject that way? Woudn't be a term like "dative
experiencer" or "dative/recipient-like experiencer" be more
adequate for a cross-linguistic comparison?<br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p> Ilja</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.12.2018 um 17:00 schrieb Spike
Gildea:<br>
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Dear colleagues,
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<div class="">I forward a query from my colleague, Jóhanna
Barðdal, who is looking for examples of predicates of "success”
with non canonical subject marking, in particular those that
take a dative subject. </div>
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We are working on Indo-European verbs/predicates with
the meanings 'succeed', 'be successful', 'make
progress', 'turn out well', 'go well'. The last one in
the sense "he is doing well in his dance class" or even
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Thank you in advance for indications of other places in the
world where we might find such predicates taking a dative
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