<div style="line-height:1.7;color:#000000;font-size:18px;font-family:simsun"><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">Dear Denis:</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">The phenomenon you mentioned is very intresting. I guess it might have to do with the notion "logophoricity". This term, first introduced by </span><span style="font-size: 16px;" class="">Hagège in 1974 when described some African languages (in recent years, logophoricity was found in East Asian languages, such as Amdo Tibetan and Japanese dialects, see Bugaeva 2008; Ebihara 2014), refers to "the phenomenon in which the perspective or point of view of an internal protagonist of a sentence or discourse, as opposed to that of the current, external speaker" (Huang 2007: 266; see also Clements 1975; Culy 1994, 1997; etc.) For example, in "John said that Ben had seen him", the "him" must refer back to the matrix subject John if it is in logophoric form; on the contrary, if "him" is a regular pronoun, it stands for a person outside the context, David, Peter, whatever.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;" class="">Bugaeva, Anna. 2008. Reported discourse and logophoricity in Southern Hokkaido dialects of Ainu. <i>言语研究</i><i>Gengo Kenkyu</i>. 133: 31-75.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;" class="">Ebihara, Shiho. 2014. Logophoric pronouns in Amdo Tibetan. <i>思言 東京外国語大学記述言語学論集</i> 第 10 号:3-12.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;" class="">Yan, Huang. 2007. <i>Pragmatics</i>. Oxford: Oxford University Press.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><div>Clements, George N. 1975. The logophoric pronoun in Ewe: its role in discourse. <i>Journal of West African Languages</i> 10(2), 141-177.</div><div>Culy, Christopher. 1994. Aspects of logophoric marking. <i>Linguistics</i> 32(5), 1055-1094.</div><div>Culy, Christopher. 1997. Logophoric pronouns and point of view. <i>Linguistics</i> 35 (1997), 845-859.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this is somehow helpful for your questions.</div></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;" class="">Best wishes,</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;" class="">Chenlei</span></div><div style="position:relative;zoom:1">--<br><div>Chenlei Zhou, Assistant Professor</div><div>Institute of Linguistics, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences</div><div>#5 Jianguomennei Street, Beijing, 100732, P.R.China </div><div style="clear:both"></div></div><div id="divNeteaseMailCard"></div><div><br></div><pre><br>At 2019-04-25 00:00:03, lingtyp-request@listserv.linguistlist.org wrote:
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>From: Olesya Khanina <olesya.khanina@gmail.com>
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>Subject: [Lingtyp] 2nd CfP: Down by river (Helsinki, 5-7 Nov 2019),
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>Dear colleagues,
>
>This is the 2nd call for papers I am co-organizing at the University of
>Helsinki with my fellow archeologists: “Down by the water:
>Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water transit points in past
>societies”, 5-7 Nov 2019. Note that the deadline has been extended to 31
>May 2019.
>https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>
>This is planned as a truly interdisciplinary conference where one of the
>four sessions will be devoted to linguistic perspectives on waterways. We
>welcome papers presenting language facts intrinsically connected to
>waterways, such as language dispersal through waterways, language contact
>occurring at water crossing points, multilingual areas located along
>rivers, etc. The linguistic plenary talk will be delivered by Rik van Gijn,
>who combines qualitative and quantitative methods to investigate the
>interconnection between river systems and languages of South America.
>Together with his colleagues at the University of Zurich, he has proposed
>an approach to identify probable pathways of language diffusion along the
>Amazon River network, combining ideas from route planning (i.e. looking for
>possible routes of linguistic diffusion along the river network) and route
>inference (i.e. testing the possible routes against evidence from
>linguistic data).
>
>It would be interesting to see how the relevance of waterways to
>communities can shape languages they speak, and to present this connection
>to colleagues from other disciplines. Likewise, the hope is that linguists
>can benefit from a different perspective on the same object that historians
>and archeologists will share during this conference. See a detailed call
>for papers below.
>
>With best regards,
>Olesya
>
>****
>*Down by the water: Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water
>transit points in past societies*
>
>*Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies, Helsinki, 6-8 November, 2019*
>https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>
>Waterways have been key factors in the development of societies from
>prehistoric times to nowadays, particularly due to their role as vectors
>for cultural interactions, material exchange, and transmission of
>knowledge. The fluidity of these highways of transport and communications
>is tightly linked to the presence of transit points: spaces with unique
>geographical characteristics that acted as nodal points between different
>communities. Transit points are thus defined as places of intense social
>contacts, putting objects of physical geography into the domain of social
>sciences and humanities.
>
>The subject is challenging, as many activities that happen in the aquatic
>spaces seldom leave substantial archaeological traces behind due to the
>nature of the activities (for example, some actions take place on board
>vessels), or the inaccessibility of the archaeological remains (for
>example, submerged or silted spaces). In some instances, the location might
>have been obscured by lack of remains, but the impact of those interactions
>is visible in other ways, such as nautical technology or language exchanges.
>
>Rivers are particularly relevant to language exchanges, as they have been
>crucial in defining language contact areas in such diverse parts of the
>world as Amazonia, Northern Europe, and Siberia, among others: in some
>cases, riverside locations are known to be areas of linguistic similarity
>resulting from long-term exchange relations between speakers of unrelated
>languages or from a population spread along a river path. In other areas,
>riverside locations can be areas of the most linguistic diversity if they
>serve as a marketplace to which temporarily gather representatives of the
>otherwise geographically distant language communities.
>
>The complex nature of human exchanges in these kinds of locations have
>resulted in the need to develop legal frameworks to mediate interactions,
>many of which reflect the multiculturality and multi-legality of the actors
>involved. Taking all this into account, an interdisciplinary perspective
>with a focus on human-environment interactions is necessary. This sort of
>approach can help set forth more nuanced theories regarding the relation
>between social systems and their environment, using data obtained through
>different disciplines such as iconography, law, computer modelling,
>ethnography, geography, history, linguistics, environmental sciences, and
>so on.
>
>By engaging with interdisciplinary theoretical approaches like the maritime
>cultural landscape, boat biographies, or language contact studies,
>researchers will be able to recognize the impact of maritime or fluvial
>cultures onto their social framework and bring a balance to the narratives
>of the past in regions with amphibious landscapes.
>
>This conference seeks to challenge the interaction between models and
>particular case studies. To this aim, we would like to invite proposals
>from scholars conducting research in different fields whose focus is human
>activities in rivers, sea-river, and coastal transit points with a broad
>geographic and chronological perspective. With this interdisciplinary
>approach, we expect to demonstrate what can be achieved by changing the
>research paradigm to one that fully embraces the nuances of the aquatic
>world, and specially the intricate connection between water spaces and
>humans.
>
>Plenary speakers:
>Himanshu Prabha Ray (Jawaharlal Nehru University),
>Christoph Schäfer (University of Trier),
>Rik Van Gijn (University of Zurich),
>Crystal El Safadi (University of Southampton)
>
>Suggested topics:
>
> - Port and harbour communities
> - Trade and economics at transit points
> - Human-environment interactions along waterways
> - Nautical technology and design: exchanges and group identity
> - Linguistic dispersal through waterways
> - Language contact and waterways
> - Multilingualism along major rivers
>
>Prospective presenters are requested to submit an abstract in a .docx file
>containing:
>
> - Title of the presentation
> - Name of the presenter
> - Email and affiliation
> - Abstract of no more than 250 words.
> - Keywords
>
>
>Submission deadline: 30th of April 2019
>Submissions should be made to: downbythewater68@gmail.com
>Further inquiries should be made to: Veronica Walker Vadillo at
>veronica.walker@helsinki.fi
>
>Organising committee:
>Elisabeth Holmqvist-Sipilä, HCAS
>Olesya Khanina, HCAS/ Institute of Linguistics, Russian Academy of Sciences
>Emilia Mataix Ferrandiz, HCAS
>Veronica Walker Vadillo, HCAS
>
>
>--
>Olesya Khanina
>Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies & Institute of Linguistics RAS
>http://iling-ran.ru/main/scholars/khanina
>http://circumpolar.iling-ran.ru/
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>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:42:02 +0300
>From: Olesya Khanina <olesya.khanina@gmail.com>
>To: lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org
>Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] 2nd CfP: Down by river (Helsinki, 5-7 Nov
> 2019), deadline extended to 31 May 2019
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>I am sorry, there has been a mistake in my recent email! The conference
>takes place 6-8 November 2019, not 5-7 November!
>
>ср, 24 апр. 2019 г. в 15:29, Olesya Khanina <olesya.khanina@gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> This is the 2nd call for papers I am co-organizing at the University of
>> Helsinki with my fellow archeologists: “Down by the water:
>> Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water transit points in past
>> societies”, 5-7 Nov 2019. Note that the deadline has been extended to 31
>> May 2019.
>> https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>>
>> This is planned as a truly interdisciplinary conference where one of the
>> four sessions will be devoted to linguistic perspectives on waterways. We
>> welcome papers presenting language facts intrinsically connected to
>> waterways, such as language dispersal through waterways, language contact
>> occurring at water crossing points, multilingual areas located along
>> rivers, etc. The linguistic plenary talk will be delivered by Rik van Gijn,
>> who combines qualitative and quantitative methods to investigate the
>> interconnection between river systems and languages of South America.
>> Together with his colleagues at the University of Zurich, he has proposed
>> an approach to identify probable pathways of language diffusion along the
>> Amazon River network, combining ideas from route planning (i.e. looking for
>> possible routes of linguistic diffusion along the river network) and route
>> inference (i.e. testing the possible routes against evidence from
>> linguistic data).
>>
>> It would be interesting to see how the relevance of waterways to
>> communities can shape languages they speak, and to present this connection
>> to colleagues from other disciplines. Likewise, the hope is that linguists
>> can benefit from a different perspective on the same object that historians
>> and archeologists will share during this conference. See a detailed call
>> for papers below.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Olesya
>>
>> ****
>> *Down by the water: Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water
>> transit points in past societies*
>>
>> *Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies, Helsinki, 6-8 November, 2019*
>> https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>>
>> Waterways have been key factors in the development of societies from
>> prehistoric times to nowadays, particularly due to their role as vectors
>> for cultural interactions, material exchange, and transmission of
>> knowledge. The fluidity of these highways of transport and communications
>> is tightly linked to the presence of transit points: spaces with unique
>> geographical characteristics that acted as nodal points between different
>> communities. Transit points are thus defined as places of intense social
>> contacts, putting objects of physical geography into the domain of social
>> sciences and humanities.
>>
>> The subject is challenging, as many activities that happen in the aquatic
>> spaces seldom leave substantial archaeological traces behind due to the
>> nature of the activities (for example, some actions take place on board
>> vessels), or the inaccessibility of the archaeological remains (for
>> example, submerged or silted spaces). In some instances, the location might
>> have been obscured by lack of remains, but the impact of those interactions
>> is visible in other ways, such as nautical technology or language
>> exchanges.
>>
>> Rivers are particularly relevant to language exchanges, as they have been
>> crucial in defining language contact areas in such diverse parts of the
>> world as Amazonia, Northern Europe, and Siberia, among others: in some
>> cases, riverside locations are known to be areas of linguistic similarity
>> resulting from long-term exchange relations between speakers of unrelated
>> languages or from a population spread along a river path. In other areas,
>> riverside locations can be areas of the most linguistic diversity if they
>> serve as a marketplace to which temporarily gather representatives of the
>> otherwise geographically distant language communities.
>>
>> The complex nature of human exchanges in these kinds of locations have
>> resulted in the need to develop legal frameworks to mediate interactions,
>> many of which reflect the multiculturality and multi-legality of the actors
>> involved. Taking all this into account, an interdisciplinary perspective
>> with a focus on human-environment interactions is necessary. This sort of
>> approach can help set forth more nuanced theories regarding the relation
>> between social systems and their environment, using data obtained through
>> different disciplines such as iconography, law, computer modelling,
>> ethnography, geography, history, linguistics, environmental sciences, and
>> so on.
>>
>> By engaging with interdisciplinary theoretical approaches like the maritime
>> cultural landscape, boat biographies, or language contact studies,
>> researchers will be able to recognize the impact of maritime or fluvial
>> cultures onto their social framework and bring a balance to the narratives
>> of the past in regions with amphibious landscapes.
>>
>> This conference seeks to challenge the interaction between models and
>> particular case studies. To this aim, we would like to invite proposals
>> from scholars conducting research in different fields whose focus is human
>> activities in rivers, sea-river, and coastal transit points with a broad
>> geographic and chronological perspective. With this interdisciplinary
>> approach, we expect to demonstrate what can be achieved by changing the
>> research paradigm to one that fully embraces the nuances of the aquatic
>> world, and specially the intricate connection between water spaces and
>> humans.
>>
>> Plenary speakers:
>> Himanshu Prabha Ray (Jawaharlal Nehru University),
>> Christoph Schäfer (University of Trier),
>> Rik Van Gijn (University of Zurich),
>> Crystal El Safadi (University of Southampton)
>>
>> Suggested topics:
>>
>> - Port and harbour communities
>> - Trade and economics at transit points
>> - Human-environment interactions along waterways
>> - Nautical technology and design: exchanges and group identity
>> - Linguistic dispersal through waterways
>> - Language contact and waterways
>> - Multilingualism along major rivers
>>
>> Prospective presenters are requested to submit an abstract in a .docx file
>> containing:
>>
>> - Title of the presentation
>> - Name of the presenter
>> - Email and affiliation
>> - Abstract of no more than 250 words.
>> - Keywords
>>
>>
>> Submission deadline: 30th of April 2019
>> Submissions should be made to: downbythewater68@gmail.com
>> Further inquiries should be made to: Veronica Walker Vadillo at
>> veronica.walker@helsinki.fi
>>
>> Organising committee:
>> Elisabeth Holmqvist-Sipilä, HCAS
>> Olesya Khanina, HCAS/ Institute of Linguistics, Russian Academy of Sciences
>> Emilia Mataix Ferrandiz, HCAS
>> Veronica Walker Vadillo, HCAS
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olesya Khanina
>> Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies & Institute of Linguistics RAS
>> http://iling-ran.ru/main/scholars/khanina
>> http://circumpolar.iling-ran.ru/
>>
>
>
>--
>Olesya Khanina
>Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies & Institute of Linguistics RAS
>http://iling-ran.ru/main/scholars/khanina
>http://circumpolar.iling-ran.ru/
>
>*This year I am co-organising the following conferences:*
>*'Linguistic forum' - Moscow, 4-6 April 2019: *
>http://iling-ran.ru/main/conferences/2019_indigenous
>*'Typology of small-scale multilingualism' - Lyon, 15-17 April
>2019: https://ilcl.hse.ru/smallscale/ <https://ilcl.hse.ru/smallscale/>*
>
>*'Down by the water' - Helsinki, 6-8 November 2019:
>https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
><https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/>*
>*'Language contact in the circumpolar world' - Moscow, 25-27 October 2019*
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>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:23:58 +0200
>From: "Denis CREISSELS" <denis.creissels@univ-lyon2.fr>
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>Dear all,
>
>
>
>By extended direct speech, I mean constructions involving a main verb
>which is not a verb of saying and a subordinate clause which does not refer
>to a speech act, but in which first person pronouns or indexes in the
>subordinate clause behave exactly in the same way as in direct speech, in
>the sense that they do not refer to the speaker, but to the subject of the
>matrix clause. This pattern is regularly (although optionally) found in
>Jóola Fóoñi (aka Diola-Fogny, an Atlantic language of Senegal), in the
>complementation of know and other cognitive verbs.
>
>
>
>For example, in Jóola Fooñi, The childi knows that hisi mother worked hard
>for himi is commonly expressed as literally The child knows that my mother
>worked hard for me. The obvious explanation is that such a sentence can be
>paraphrased as The child knows (something he could express by saying:) my
>mother worked hard for me. One must therefore consider the possibility
>that, cross-linguistically, similar sentences occur more or less
>sporadically in spontaneous speech with a special intonation, as a figure
>of speech of the type termed anacoluthon in classical rhetoric. What is
>special in the case of Jóola Fóoñi is that such a formulation is
>stylistically neutral, does not necessitate a special intonation, and is not
>deemed deviant by speakers.
>
>
>
>I would be interested to know whether a similar routinization of extended
>direct speech has been observed in other languages.
>
>
>
>Best,
>
>Denis
>
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