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<p>This "equipping" was also actually implied in my use of the term
"grammaticisation"– and I did collaborate with Auroux while being
both members of the CNRS National Commission 30 years ago,
although he may have preferred a still shorter form of the word!</p>
<p>Any way, not a mere whim of field linguists, the difference
between "grammati(ci)sation" and "grammaticalisation" remains an
essential one: the creation of grammar tools is only one of the
explaining factors for the typological evolution of a language,
since it is not automatically validated by language users.</p>
<p>M.M.Jocelyne Fernandez-Vest<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 10/06/2019 à 08:42, Aimée Lahaussois
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And for yet another usage of ‘grammatisation’: historians of
linguistics use the term for the process of ‘equipping’ languages
with tools such as grammars or dictionaries. Sylvain Auroux was a
big promoter of the concept.
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Just to
muddy the waters a bit further, in the two volumes
emerging from the 1988 Oregon conference (Traugott &
Heine, 1991),</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Jim
Matisoff went even further in his paper, "Areal and
Universal Dimensions of Grammatization in Lahu
(Matissof, 1991: 381):</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">"The
term <i class="">grammaticalization</i>, despite its
heptasyllabic cacophony (the more concise <i class="">grammaticization</i>,
or even<i class=""> grammatization</i></div>
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be preferable) represents one of the most important
phenomena in diachronic linguistics.
Grammat(ic[al])ization is</div>
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a diachronic concept."</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Like
Joan Bybee, I opted for <i class="">grammaticization</i>
for its economy and elegance, as I saw it; I continue to
use that form, avoiding</div>
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nuances that have emerged since between the erstwhile
synonyms.<br class="">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
appreciate Bernhard's placing of the emerging
distinction between <i class="">grammaticalization</i>
and <i class="">grammaticization</i> in the context of</div>
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class="" size="2">a general psycholinguistic process,
citing <span class="">Bréal</span> and Eve Clark who
elaborated the point I made in an earlier posting.</font></div>
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class="" size="2">The editors of the Oregon conference
volume accepted all three variants as titles of
individual papers.</font></div>
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class="" size="2">Dan</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><font
class="" size="2">Elizabeth Closs Traugott & Bernd
Heine (Eds.) (1991). <i class="">Approaches to
grammaticalization. </i>Vol. 1: <i class="">Focus
on theoretical and</i></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><font
class="" size="2"><i class="">methodological issues. </i>Vol.
2: <i class="">Focus on types of grammatical
markers. </i>Amsterdam/Philadelphia: John
Benjamins.</font></div>
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class="" size="2">James A. Matisoff (1991). Areal and
universal dimensions of grammatization in Lahu. <i
class="">Ibid., </i>383-454.</font><br class="">
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<div class="">Aimée Lahaussois<br class="">
Histoire des théories linguistiques<br class="">
CNRS & Université Paris Diderot<br class="">
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Prof. Marie-Madeleine Jocelyne FERNANDEZ-VEST <br>
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