<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I have not received either the original message by Sergey. <div>It would be interesting to compare the situation you describe with that found in Arabic varieties, taking into account the different uses of the 'present' verbal passive as impersonal, middle, etc. more often than the 'past' form.</div><div>Some qualifications are found in my article </div><div>Arabic Silent Pronouns, Person, and Voice, <i>Brill’s Annual of Afroasiatic Languages and Linguistics</i> 1 (2009) 3–40<br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Abdelkader</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 8 nov. 2019 à 18:33, Haspelmath, Martin <<a href="mailto:haspelmath@shh.mpg.de">haspelmath@shh.mpg.de</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Yes, I found this discussed by Comrie in 1981, and discussed it myself in 1994:<br>
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<div>Comrie, Bernard. 1981. Aspect and voice: Some reflections on perfect and passive. In Philip J. Tedeschi & Annie Zaenen (eds.),
<i>Tense and aspect</i> (Syntax and Semantics 14), 65–78. New York: Academic Press.</div>
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<div>Haspelmath, Martin. 1994. Passive participles across languages. In Barbara Fox & Paul J. Hopper (eds.),
<i>Voice: Form and function</i> (Typological Studies in Language), 151–177. Amsterdam: Benjamins.
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doi:10.1075/tsl.27.08has</a>. (<a href="http://doi.org/10.1075/tsl.27.08has,%0D%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20https://zenodo.org/record/227097" target="_blank">https://zenodo.org/record/227097</a>)</div>
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But there must be more recent work about this as well.<br>
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Best,<br>
Martin<br>
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<div> <span style="font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Dear colleagues</span></span>
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<p><span style="font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Working with corpora of certain Semitic languages,
I noticed that passive verb forms are much more frequent in the past tenses than in present and future tenses. This is also my impression of various languages with which I am familiar but have not studied their verbal systems. Does such cross-linguistic feature
exist? If yes, how do we explain it?</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best wishes,</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Sergey</span></span></span></span></span></p>
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