<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Re basic constituent order argued to be (partly) the reflection of proto-world SOV, see:</div><div><br></div><div>Gell-Mann, Murray & Merritt Ruhlen. 2011. The origin and evolution of</div><div>word order. PNAS: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of</div><div>the United States of America 108(42). 17290-17295.</div><div><br></div><div><div>Maurits, Luke & Thomas L. Gri?ths. 2014. Tracing the roots of syntax</div><div>with Bayesian phylogenetics. PNAS 111(37). 13576?13581.</div></div><div><br></div><div><div>Newmeyer, Frederick J. 2000. On the reconstruction of 'Proto-World' word</div><div>order. In Chris Knight, Michael Studdert-Kennedy & James R. Hurford</div><div>(eds.), The evolutionary emergence of language: social function and the</div><div>origins of linguistic form, 372-390. Cambridge: Cambridge University</div><div>Press.</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Pada tanggal Sen, 20 Jan 2020 pukul 18.45 Haspelmath, Martin <<a href="mailto:haspelmath@shh.mpg.de">haspelmath@shh.mpg.de</a>> menulis:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Dear all,<br>
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Does anyone know a case where it has been proposed (or suggested) concretely that an observed universal tendency (or absolute universal) is due to inheritance from Proto-World?<br>
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Cysouw (2011: 417) has suggested this as a possibility:<br>
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<font size="-1">"It is possible that there are still founder effects available in the current distribution of the world’s languages, i.e., that there are preferences in the current world’s languages that go back to incidental events during the spread of languages
over the world (Maslova 2000)."</font><br>
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But while this is logically possible, are there any concrete suggestions with a global scope?<br>
Word order universals such as the Greenbergian correlations, or phonological universals such as vowel dispersion cannot be due to Proto-World (or some other founder effect), because the universality lies in the implicational patterns, not in specific structures
that all languages share. Has anyone suggested that any other universal properties (e.g. the fact that all languages can express negation or questions, or that agent-patient organization is universal, or that all languages have recursion) may be due to Proto-World
inheritance?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Martin<br>
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References:<br>
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<div>Cysouw, Michael. 2011. Understanding transition probabilities.
<i>Linguistic Typology</i> 15(2). 415–431.<br>
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<div>Maslova, Elena. 2000. A dynamic approach to the verification of distributional universals.
<i>Linguistic Typology</i> 4. 307 – 333.<br>
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