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<span style="font-style: normal;" class="">the vocabulary of a given language, not rare cross-linguistically.</span>
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I’d comment that /b, p, o/ are cross-linguistically common — rather than rare — sounds, so they do not seem
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<div class="">so õ fits with the existing phonological patterns of the language.</div>
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<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Times;" class="">Aikhenvald (2010) observes that in Tariana, certain sounds –
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</span><i style="font-family: Times;" class="">o</i><span style="font-family: Times;" class=""> and
</span><i style="font-family: Times;" class="">õ</i><span style="font-family: Times;" class=""> – occur frequently in East Tucanoan loanwords but are rare in other words. Whiteley (1965:4) observes that in Gusii phonology, ```p' occurs in one or two ideophones
only, but is increasingly noticeable in the speech of the younger generation who have had contact with Swahili and English.”</span></span></blockquote>
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</font><span style="font-family: Times;" class="">Alexandra Y Aikhenvald. </span><span style="font-family: Times;" class="">Language contact in Amazonia</span><span style="font-family: Times;" class="">. Oxford University Press, Oxford, 2010.</span><br class="">
<span style="font-family: Times;" class="">Wilfred Howell. Whiteley. </span><span style="font-family: Times;" class="">A practical introduction to Gusii</span><span style="font-family: Times;" class="">. East African Literature. Bureau, Nairobi, 1965.</span><br class="">
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</font><span style="font-family: Times;" class="">I would much appreciate if anyone could point to other cases like this.</span><br class="">
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I would like to know if there are any sources that demonstrate that loanwords tend to have a larger number of rare, uncommon sounds as opposed to native words.<br class="">
My intuition tells me that this is true, but I’ve yet to find any source that makes a general typological claim on this.<br class="">
I would greatly appreciate your help.<br class="">
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