<div dir="ltr">Adam - In my "catalogue" of 664 tone systems, I have 398 that have only two levels. Of these 85 have a LH tone. Of these 11 have been analyzed as having a contrast between LH and something else. A warning though: This is really an interpretation—for example, Fasu has been analyzed as having a /H/ vs. /L/ on its stressed syllable, but it could have been set up as /HL/ vs. /LH/ (probably other possibilities). The fewer tonal contrasts, the more room for interpretation. I'm skeptical that you *have to* analyze the language that way.<div><br></div><div>Here is the list (I haven't gone back to look at the references, read many years ago, which are in my office, which is not available to us these days!):<div><br></div><div>LH vs. Ø (which you asked for):</div><div>Mal (dialect). [MLF] Mon-Khmer. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Filbeck, David. 1972. Tone in a dialect of T’in. Anthropological Linguistics 14.111-118</span></div><div><br></div><div><font face="Times New Roman">LH vs. HL:</font></div><div><font face="Times New Roman">Dafla (Nisi), Tibeto-Burman (Tani). </font><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Ray, Punya Sloka. 1967. Dafla phonology and morphology. Anthr. Lx. 9.8, 9-14.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Daw (Maku, Brazil): </span><span style="font-family:Times">Martins, Valteir. 2005. </span><i style="font-family:Times">Reconstruçao Fonológica do Protomaku Oriental</i><span style="font-family:Times">. Doctoral dissertation, LOT (Netherlands Graduate School of Linguistics).</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Times">Hup (Maku, Colombia, Brazil): </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Epps, Patience. 2005. A grammar of Hup. Doctoral dissertation, University of Virginia</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Oksapmin (Trans-New-Guinea): </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Okspamin Organized Phonology Data. SIL, Papua New Guinea.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">H vs. LH:</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Tshangla (Tsangla), Tibeto-Burman, Himalayish (Bodic): Zhang Jichuan 1986, cited in </span><span style="font-family:Times">Andvik, Erik. Tshangla.</span><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="font-family:Times"> </span><span style="font-family:Times">In Thurgood, Graham & Randy J. LaPolla. 2003. The Sino-Tibetan Languages. London & New York: Routledge</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Times">Auye (Trans-New-Guinea, Wissel Lakes): </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Moxness, Michael. 2006. Auye phonology. Ms. (SIL?)</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Foe (Trans-New-Guinea, Kutubuan): </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Rule, Murray. 1993. The culture and language of the Foe-Lake Kutubu People of the Southern Highlands Province, Papua New Guinea.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Pame (Northern) (Oto-Manguean, Pamean): </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Berthiaume, Scott Charles. 2003. </span><i style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">A phonological grammar of Northern Pame.</i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> Doctoral dissertation. University of Texas at Arlington.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">H vs. LHL</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Ama (Left May, Papua New Guinea, East Sepik): </span><span style="color:rgb(66,66,66);font-family:Times">1994. Ama Organised Phonology Data.</span><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="color:rgb(66,66,66);font-family:Times"> SIL, Papua New Guinea.</span></div><div><br></div><div>And with some confusion between HL vs. H, H vs. LH, or even HL vs. LH:</div><div><br></div><div>Kuman (Trans-New-Guinea, Chimbu): <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hardie, Peter. 2003. Is Kuman tonal? An account of basic segmental and tonological structure in the Papuan language Kuman. MA Thesis. ANU.</span><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></div>
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</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 9:15 AM Adam James Ross Tallman <<a href="mailto:ajrtallman@utexas.edu">ajrtallman@utexas.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">Hey all,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">It's been suggested to me that the language I'm working on really makes a distinction between 0 vs. LH lexical marking, rather than 0 vs. H as I had previously thought. Looking at connected speech the evidence for this seems very strong and I'm starting to overcome my initial resilience to the proposal.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">Has this been proposed for any other language? (i.e. a language that just has 0, LH or 0, HL and no corresponding lexical Ls and Hs). I want to know what the evidence looks like for other language? In my case it's primarily phonetic and I'm not really sure what strictly phonological evidence would look like.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">Notice I'm not asking about pitch accents or intonational marking etc. But cases where it can be shown that the categories are really lexically specified.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">Help would be appreciated, I hope everyone is well and healthy.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">Adam</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="times new roman, serif">Adam J.R. Tallman</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="times new roman, serif">PhD, University of Texas at Austin<br></font><div><font face="times new roman, serif">Investigador del Museo de Etnografía y Folklore, la Paz<br></font><div><font face="times new roman, serif"><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font>ELDP -- </font>Postdoctorante<br></font><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font>CNRS -- </font>Dynamique Du Langage (UMR 5596)</font></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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