<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Let’s not overlook the fact that some publishers (and many reference sources, etc) find it too much <div class="">to use an umlaut in German citations.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ian<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 31, 2020, at 01:10, Joo, Ian <<a href="mailto:joo@shh.mpg.de" class="">joo@shh.mpg.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Dear all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I would like to ask a question to everybody:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">When citing literature written in non-Latin script, why do some editors require it to be<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">cited ONLY in Latin script?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">For example, this is how I would cite a Chinese book, when writing an article in English:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Xùliàn</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">旭</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: PMingLiU, serif;" class="">练</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Lǐ</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">李</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">.<i class="">Láiyǔ yánjiū</i></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: PMingLiU, serif;" class="">倈语</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">硏究</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">. Zhōngguó xīn fāxiàn yǔyán yánjiū cóngshū</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">中</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: PMingLiU, serif;" class="">国</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">新</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: PMingLiU, serif;" class="">发现语</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">言</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: PMingLiU, serif;" class="">研</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">究</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: PMingLiU, serif;" class="">丛书</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">. Zhōngyāng mínzú dàxué chūbǎnshè</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">中央民族大</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: PMingLiU, serif;" class="">学</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">出版社</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">, Běijīng</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">北京</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">As you can see, in both the original script (Chinese) and Latin script.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">But some editors require it to be:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Xùliàn Lǐ.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Láiyǔ yánjiū</i>. Zhōngguó xīn fāxiàn yǔyán yánjiū cóngshū. Zhōngyāng mínzú dàxué chūbǎnshè, Běijīng.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">But why would we not write the original script and ONLY write in Latin script?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The point of citing literature is to enable the reader to go find and consult it themself.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">But when the author’s name is written as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Xùliàn Lǐ</i>, I have no idea how that would be written in Chinese, thus making it more difficult to find the literature when needed.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">So what is the logical purpose of requiring the article to be cited ONLY in Latin script?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The only logical reason I can think of is that it saves some space – ca. one line per citation. But is that a good enough reason to make things harder for those actually wanting to find and read the cited work?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I would like to hear your opinion on this matter.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(I’m asking this question on Lingtyp mailing list, because our subfield makes it necessary for some of us to make extensive use of non-Latin-script literature.)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">From Daejeon,</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Ian</span><span lang="en-DE" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="en-DE" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Lingtyp mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" style="font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp" style="font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class=""><div class="">Ian Maddieson</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Department of Linguistics</div><div class="">University of New Mexico</div><div class="">MSC03-2130</div><div class="">Albuquerque NM 87131-0001</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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