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<div dir="auto">Dear Raoul,
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<div dir="auto">Digital storage is by its nature fragile. It seems that you store the thousands of articles digitally, and your goal is to preserve them for a very long term without any accessibility, but what we are able to access today in a given digital format is not going to be easily accessible decades, even centuries later (which seems to be what you are planning for). Think of the difficulty we encounter when we want to access data in a VHS or LP record today. Now think of that situation with a time gap of decades or centuries.</div>
<div dir="auto">If we want to preserve written material for a very long time, it has to be in a physical format. Think of how we are still able to have access to manuscripts written centuries, even millennia ago. And written sources in physical format are already well preserved by libraries all over the world. So I would argue that physical libraries are already serving as the “vault” (or “vaults”) you have in mind.</div>
<div dir="auto">So if the goal of your archive is long-term preservation and not immediate access, I must say that pdf files are not the best way to achieve that goal.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
<div dir="auto">Ian</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 1. Apr 2020, 20:57 +0900, zamponi_raoul@libero.it, wrote:<br />
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<div>Dear all,<br />
given that I received various messages (also privately) about the DAWL (the Digital Archive of the World's Languages), I think I should answers the most frequent questions I received.</div>
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<div>- The archive is not anywhere, at least officially. It is stored in an external CD that I keep in my house, in Italy. A twin archive is stored in Sweden.</div>
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<div>- I am not able to provide a detailed catalogue of the resources the DAWL contains. I have just generated a list of the files it presently contains. The name of the files are usually self-explanatory and permit recognition of the sources: <em>intelligenti pauca!</em></div>
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<div>ISO-639-3 CODE OF THE LANGUAGE_SURNAME OF THE (FIRST) AUTHOR+YEAR</div>
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<div>I tried to send the list I generated, but I received this warning:</div>
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<div>Given the I cannot send the long, whole list, now I am sending only the initial segment A-E (It should be enough for having an idea about the archive.) The whole list of the material on the <strong>7,073</strong> languages covered by the DAWL is (privately) available to anyone interested.</div>
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<div>- I am aware that the whole archive cannot be accessible to the interested people due to the current copyright restrictions (at least in my country). I consulted a legal for this.</div>
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<div>- This fact, however, does not prevent that the archive is kept by a scientific institution. The part of the archive that reproduces copyrighted materials should remain "under embargo" and inaccessible. The legal I consulted said that this option apparently does not break any European law, but he did not understand the sense of an archive that must remain largely inaccessible to all.</div>
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<div>- The sense of all this is that of preserving as many sources possible about the present-day linguistic diversity of the world. The archive, besides being a precious working tool for typologists, is a testimony for future generations of the over 7,000 languages/"linguoids" we currently know. From this point of view, the DAWL is the equivalent, on the linguistic plane, of the (inaccessible) Svalbard Global Seed Vault: an attempt to ensure against the loss of sources (often rare and precious) documenting the world linguistic diversity. We must also think in the long term, when copyright restriction will decay and many of the languages covered in the DAWL will be no more spoken.</div>
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<div>- The DAWL is in search of an institution that can preserve it and, possibly, catalogue its resources (note that further 80.000 files needs to be open and classified!). I (and the co-creator of the archive) ask for nothing in return. This is more than enough. I do not wish that the DAWL is commercially exploited or falls into the hand of the web giants. This should be clear. I also cannot take the risk of passing the DAWL to foundations that have links with the web giants.<br /></div>
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<div>- Unfortunately, I cannot fulfill requests of the type: "send all that you have on the language X". I welcome, however, suggestions and ideas about the way of preserving the DAWL.</div>
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<div>Best regards,<br />
Raoul Zamponi</div>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">I don’t know about anyone else, but I’d certainly like the whole volume if that’s possible.</p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">I’m not clear what the situation is with DAWL. Where is it housed at present, and why does it need to move? How does one get access to it now?</p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org> <strong>On Behalf Of</strong> zamponi_raoul@libero.it<br />
<strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, 1 April 2020 4:04 AM<br />
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<strong>Cc:</strong> bates_jonah@ku.edu<br />
<strong>Subject:</strong> [Lingtyp] Fwd: Copy of Hale 1976, DAWL</p>
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<p>Dear Jonah,<br />
a digital reproduction of Hale (1976) is in attachment. Let me know if you also need the rest of the volume.<br />
This file if from a digital archive called DAWL (Digital Archive of the World's Languages) created over 20 years ago containing now (in this moment) over 100,000 resources (linguistic descriptions and other materials) about 7,073 languages of the world (or varieties considered as such by Glottolog). This archive is in search of an institution that can adopt it and save it from dispersion, by respecting the current copyright restrictions.<br />
If anyone is interested or has ideas can contact me, of course.<br />
Best,<br />
Raoul Zamponi</p>
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Da: "Bates, Jonah David" <<a href="mailto:bates_jonah@ku.edu">bates_jonah@ku.edu</a>><br />
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Data: 30 marzo 2020 alle 21.11<br />
Oggetto: [Lingtyp] Copy of Hale 1976</p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">I hope this works as this is my first time posting to this list. I was wondering if anyone on here might have a digital copy of Ken Hale's 1976 paper "</span> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">Phonological developments in particular Northern Paman languages". It appeared in the volume Languages of Cape York with Peter Sutton as editor. We have a physical copy in our library here but current circumstances prevent us from going into the library and our digital chapter request process is enormously backed up with requests due to everyone working from home. If so, could you send me a copy?</span></p>
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