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Dear Raoul,<br>
judging from the catalog excerpt you just sent, it shouldn't be too
difficult to turn Glottolog into DAWL's online catalog.<br>
DAWL could function as one of Glottolog's "reference providers"
(like the resources of the Language Description Heritage Library,
see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://glottolog.org/providers/ldh">https://glottolog.org/providers/ldh</a>). The description of this
provider could include information how to actually access the
resources.<br>
<br>
Feel free to send me the whole list to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:forkel@shh.mpg.de">forkel@shh.mpg.de</a> and I can
evaluate the effort.<br>
<br>
Of course the problem of archiving/hosting the actual files will
remain to be solved.<br>
<br>
best<br>
robert<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01.04.20 13:55,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zamponi_raoul@libero.it">zamponi_raoul@libero.it</a> wrote:<br>
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<div> Dear all, <br>
given that I received various messages (also privately) about
the DAWL (the Digital Archive of the World's Languages), I think
I should answers the most frequent questions I received. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> - The archive is not anywhere, at least officially. It is
stored in an external CD that I keep in my house, in Italy. A
twin archive is stored in Sweden. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> - I am not able to provide a detailed catalogue of the
resources the DAWL contains. I have just generated a list of the
files it presently contains. The name of the files are usually
self-explanatory and permit recognition of the sources: <em>intelligenti
pauca!</em> </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> ISO-639-3 CODE OF THE LANGUAGE_SURNAME OF THE (FIRST)
AUTHOR+YEAR </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> I tried to send the list I generated, but I received this
warning: </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> ... your message could not be delivered to
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>. Message size exceeds fixed
limit </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Given the I cannot send the long, whole list, now I am
sending only the initial segment A-E (It should be enough for
having an idea about the archive.) The whole list of the
material on the <strong>7,073</strong> languages covered by the
DAWL is (privately) available to anyone interested. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> - I am aware that the whole archive cannot be accessible to
the interested people due to the current copyright restrictions
(at least in my country). I consulted a legal for this. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> - This fact, however, does not prevent that the archive is
kept by a scientific institution. The part of the archive that
reproduces copyrighted materials should remain "under embargo"
and inaccessible. The legal I consulted said that this option
apparently does not break any European law, but he did not
understand the sense of an archive that must remain largely
inaccessible to all. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> - The sense of all this is that of preserving as many
sources possible about the present-day linguistic diversity of
the world. The archive, besides being a precious working tool
for typologists, is a testimony for future generations of the
over 7,000 languages/"linguoids" we currently know. From this
point of view, the DAWL is the equivalent, on the linguistic
plane, of the (inaccessible) Svalbard Global Seed Vault: an
attempt to ensure against the loss of sources (often rare and
precious) documenting the world linguistic diversity. We must
also think in the long term, when copyright restriction will
decay and many of the languages covered in the DAWL will be no
more spoken. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> - The DAWL is in search of an institution that can preserve
it and, possibly, catalogue its resources (note that further
80.000 files needs to be open and classified!). I (and the
co-creator of the archive) ask for nothing in return. This is
more than enough. I do not wish that the DAWL is commercially
exploited or falls into the hand of the web giants. This should
be clear. I also cannot take the risk of passing the DAWL to
foundations that have links with the web giants. <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> - Unfortunately, I cannot fulfill requests of the type:
"send all that you have on the language X". I welcome, however,
suggestions and ideas about the way of preserving the DAWL. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Best regards, <br>
Raoul Zamponi </div>
<div> <br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Il 1 aprile 2020 alle 2.39 Bill Palmer
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bill.palmer@newcastle.edu.au"><bill.palmer@newcastle.edu.au></a> ha scritto: <br>
<br>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">Hi Raoul</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><br>
</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">I don’t know about anyone
else, but I’d certainly like the whole volume if that’s
possible.</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><br>
</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">I’m not clear what the
situation is with DAWL. Where is it housed at present, and
why does it need to move? How does one get access to it now?</p>
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</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">Best</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">Bill</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><br>
</p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">Bill Palmer</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">Director</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">Endangered Languages
Documentation,</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"> Theory and
Application Research Program</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"> The University of
Newcastle</p>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">Vice-President,
Australian Linguistics Society</p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong>
Lingtyp
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org"><lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org></a> <strong>On
Behalf Of </strong><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zamponi_raoul@libero.it">zamponi_raoul@libero.it</a><br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, 1 April 2020 4:04 AM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
<strong>Cc:</strong> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bates_jonah@ku.edu">bates_jonah@ku.edu</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> [Lingtyp] Fwd: Copy of Hale
1976, DAWL</p>
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<p>Dear Jonah,<br>
a digital reproduction of Hale (1976) is in attachment. Let
me know if you also need the rest of the volume.<br>
This file if from a digital archive called DAWL (Digital
Archive of the World's Languages) created over 20 years ago
containing now (in this moment) over 100,000 resources
(linguistic descriptions and other materials) about 7,073
languages of the world (or varieties considered as such by
Glottolog). This archive is in search of an institution that
can adopt it and save it from dispersion, by respecting the
current copyright restrictions.<br>
If anyone is interested or has ideas can contact me, of
course.<br>
Best,<br>
Raoul Zamponi</p>
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class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal">---------- Messaggio
originale ---------- <br>
Da: "Bates, Jonah David" <<a
href="mailto:bates_jonah@ku.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">bates_jonah@ku.edu</a>>
<br>
A: "<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>>
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Data: 30 marzo 2020 alle 21.11 <br>
Oggetto: [Lingtyp] Copy of Hale 1976</p>
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style="font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color:
black;">Dear all, </span></p>
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<div>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt; color: black;"> </span></p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color:
black;">I hope this works as this is my first time
posting to this list. I was wondering if anyone on
here might have a digital copy of Ken Hale's 1976
paper "</span> <span style="font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif; color: black;">Phonological developments
in particular Northern Paman languages". It appeared
in the volume Languages of Cape York with Peter Sutton
as editor. We have a physical copy in our library here
but current circumstances prevent us from going into
the library and our digital chapter request process is
enormously backed up with requests due to everyone
working from home. If so, could you send me a copy?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt; color: black;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color:
black;">Thank you! </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color:
black;">-Jonah Bates</span></p>
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style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;"> </span></p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><strong><span
style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family:
'Sylfaen',serif; color: #011835;">Jonah Bates</span></strong></p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family:
'Sylfaen',serif; color: #011835;">Doctoral
Candidate</span></p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family:
'Sylfaen',serif; color: #011835;">Department of
Linguistics</span></p>
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<p class="ox-c05b29d35f-MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Sylfaen',serif; color: #011835;">University of
Kansas</span></p>
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style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family:
'Sylfaen',serif; color: #011835;">Blake Hall</span></p>
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style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family:
'Sylfaen',serif; color: #212121;">1541 Lilac
Lane | Lawrence, KS 66044</span><span
style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family:
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