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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I also want to add that publishing in several languages is an extremely useful intellectual exercise and leads to self-discipline and self-awareness
when you realize that what you have written in one language simply does not work in one of the others – a good reason to rethink what you have written.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>På vegne af </b>Peter Austin<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 26. juni 2020 13:22<br>
<b>Til:</b> Ilja Seržant <ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de><br>
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<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] languages of scholarship<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With all due respect, I find it incredible that someone could write: "publishing new papers in languages other than English. I personally have strong reservations here. Linguistics is such a complicated matter and it is often so difficult
to exactly understand others. I think one should not make the problem of mutual understanding even larger by publishing in languages other than English (unless there is absolutely no escape). ... If you publish in languages other than English then you need
a sort of hierarchy of which languages are considered publishable (German, French, Russian ?, Latvian ??) and which are not".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are hundreds of excellent research papers in linguistics and related fields published annually in languages like Chinese, Japanese and Arabic, much of which never pierces the consciousness of English-only researchers because of attitudes
like having language hierarchies composed entirely of European languages. Sheesh.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 10:58, Ilja Seržant <<a href="mailto:ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de">ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>if I may add another perspective to this. I think passive knowledge of other languages is, of course, important and if a paper does not cite an important paper on the topic written in a language other than English that is, of course, a good reason for sending
the paper back for revision.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>However, a very different topic is publishing new papers in languages other than English. I personally have strong reservations here. Linguistics is such a complicated matter and it is often so difficult to exactly understand others. I think one should not
make the problem of mutual understanding even larger by publishing in languages other than English (unless there is absolutely no escape). Even more, perhaps, research English itself should also be different from the native English in that one should try to
avoid dialectal, non-transparent idiomatic expressions, write in short sentences, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>If you publish in languages other than English then you need a sort of hierarchy of which languages are considered publishable (German, French, Russian ?, Latvian ??) and which are not. I think this issue is difficult to resolve in a fair way.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Hartmut Haberland
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2020 11:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nigel Vincent <a href="mailto:nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk" target="_blank">
<nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk></a>; Wiemer, Bjoern <a href="mailto:wiemerb@uni-mainz.de" target="_blank">
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<b>Subject:</b> SV: [Lingtyp] languages of scholarship</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Et si l'article porte sur le grec moderne, il doit souvent se référer à la tradition grammaticale grecque (Tzartzanos) ou française (Roussel, Mirambel).
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Restricting oneself to discourses in
<i>one</i> language is myopic. Most linguists really need to read more than just two or three languages to keep up with the relevant literature, but how many do?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(Robert E. Wall said in the famous McCawley Festschrift, “More people can make out what it is about in French than actually read it”.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To take a concrete example:
<i>Acta Linguistica Hafniensia </i>was founded in 1939 and its first issue contained papers in German, French and English. Today, it still calls itself an ‘international journal’, but now practically all papers are in English, with very few exceptions. However,
if you take a random issue (51(1), May 2019), apart from one paper specifically dealing with English, there are references to literature in German, French, Greek, Norwegian, and Swedish. So linguists are at least not passively monolingual.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>På vegne af </b>Nigel Vincent<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 26. juni 2020 10:04<br>
<b>Til:</b> Wiemer, Bjoern <a href="mailto:wiemerb@uni-mainz.de" target="_blank">
<wiemerb@uni-mainz.de></a>; Gilles Authier <a href="mailto:gilles.authier@gmail.com" target="_blank">
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] languages of scholarship</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Et si l'article est sur une langue romane mais les références jugées indispensables sont écrites en allemand ou en danois … ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Wiemer, Bjoern <<a href="mailto:wiemerb@uni-mainz.de" target="_blank">wiemerb@uni-mainz.de</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2020 9:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gilles Authier <<a href="mailto:gilles.authier@gmail.com" target="_blank">gilles.authier@gmail.com</a>>; Nigel Vincent <<a href="mailto:nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk" target="_blank">nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk</a>><br>
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<p><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Je pense que oui… Actually, the same applies to articles on (a language from) other language groups (e.g., Slavic) or subgroups (e.g., Scandinavian)…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">BW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lingtyp [<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Gilles Authier<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 26. Juni 2020 09:35<br>
<b>An:</b> Nigel Vincent <<a href="mailto:nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk" target="_blank">nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] languages of scholarship</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="DE">Si l'article est sur une langue romane et que les références jugées indispensables sont écrites dans une langue romane, il me semblerait devoir être rejeté, oui.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="DE">On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:52 AM Nigel Vincent <<a href="mailto:nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk" target="_blank">nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">A related question to Ian's that I have sometimes thought about concerns the languages a researcher should be able to read in order to access relevant scholarship. Should, for example,
a paper be rejected or revisions asked for if someone writing in English on a general linguistic topic has not cited relevant work written in a language other than English?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Nigel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA MAE<br>
Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics<br>
The University of Manchester</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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School of Arts, Languages and Cultures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/en/researchers/nigel-vincent(f973a991-8ece-453e-abc5-3ca198c869dc).html" target="_blank">https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/en/researchers/nigel-vincent(f973a991-8ece-453e-abc5-3ca198c869dc).html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Ilja A. Seržant, postdoc<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Project "Grammatical Universals"<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Universität Leipzig (IPF 141199)<o:p></o:p></pre>
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