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    Peter, are there actually linguistics papers published in Arabic? Is
    Portuguese still being used to write about African languages? (It
    seems to me that only English and French are relevant for African
    linguistics these days.)<br>
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    But to the larger point: Some Europeans may be proud of the various
    other (European) languages they can read, but de facto, young
    linguists are not competitive if they publish in other languages.
    And certainly, papers in general linguistics usually have zero
    impact if they are not written in English.<br>
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    Sad as it may be, this is the reality of the 21st century. We may
    deplore it, but we will hardly be able to change it. (What we *may*
    be able to do is change the name we use for our common language:
    Globish.)<br>
    <br>
    Martin<br>
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    P.S. Thanks to Nigel and Harald for the additional info on
    "agreement" – really useful!<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.06.20 um 13:21 schrieb Peter
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      <div dir="ltr">With all due respect, I find it incredible that
        someone could write: "publishing new papers in languages other
        than English. I personally have strong reservations here.
        Linguistics is such a complicated matter and it is often so
        difficult to exactly understand others. I think one should not
        make the problem of mutual understanding even larger by
        publishing in languages other than English (unless there is
        absolutely no escape). ... If you publish in languages other
        than English then you need a sort of hierarchy of which
        languages are considered publishable (German, French, Russian ?,
        Latvian ??) and which are not".
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        <div>There are hundreds of excellent research papers in
          linguistics and related fields published annually in languages
          like Chinese, Japanese and Arabic, much of which never pierces
          the consciousness of English-only researchers because of
          attitudes like having language hierarchies composed entirely
          of European languages. Sheesh.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 10:58,
          Ilja Seržant <<a href="mailto:ilja.serzants@uni-leipzig.de"
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            <p>Dear all,</p>
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            <p>if I may add another perspective to this. I think passive
              knowledge of other languages is, of course, important and
              if a paper does not cite an important paper on the topic
              written in a language other than English that is, of
              course, a good reason for sending the paper back for
              revision.</p>
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            <p>However, a very different topic is publishing new papers
              in languages other than English. I personally have strong
              reservations here. Linguistics is such a complicated
              matter and it is often so difficult to exactly understand
              others. I think one should not make the problem of mutual
              understanding even larger by publishing in languages other
              than English (unless there is absolutely no escape). Even
              more, perhaps, research English itself should also be
              different from the native English in that one should try
              to avoid dialectal, non-transparent idiomatic expressions,
              write in short sentences, etc.</p>
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            <p>If you publish in languages other than English then you
              need a sort of hierarchy of which languages are considered
              publishable (German, French, Russian ?, Latvian ??) and
              which are not. I think this issue is difficult to resolve
              in a fair way.</p>
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            <p>Best,</p>
            <p>Ilja<br>
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            <div>Am 26.06.2020 um 11:39 schrieb Nigel Vincent:<br>
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                  Haberland <a href="mailto:hartmut@ruc.dk"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><hartmut@ruc.dk></a><br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2020 11:22 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Nigel Vincent <a
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                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>
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                  <b>Subject:</b> SV: [Lingtyp] languages of scholarship</font>
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                      lang="FR">Et si l'article porte sur le grec
                      moderne, il doit souvent se référer à la tradition
                      grammaticale grecque (Tzartzanos) ou française
                      (Roussel, Mirambel). </span><span
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                      lang="EN-US">Restricting oneself to discourses in
                      <i>one</i> language is myopic. Most linguists
                      really need to read more than just two or three
                      languages to keep up with the relevant literature,
                      but how many do?</span></p>
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                      lang="EN-US">(Robert E. Wall said in the famous
                      McCawley Festschrift, “More people can make out
                      what it is about in French than actually read
                      it”.)</span></p>
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                      lang="EN-US">To take a concrete example: <i>Acta
                        Linguistica Hafniensia </i>was founded in 1939
                      and its first issue contained papers in German,
                      French and English. Today, it still calls itself
                      an ‘international journal’, but now practically
                      all papers are in English, with very few
                      exceptions. However, if you take a random issue
                      (51(1), May 2019), apart from one paper
                      specifically dealing with English, there are
                      references to literature in German, French, Greek,
                      Norwegian, and Swedish. So linguists are at least
                      not passively monolingual.</span></p>
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                          <b>På vegne af </b>Nigel Vincent<br>
                          <b>Sendt:</b> 26. juni 2020 10:04<br>
                          <b>Til:</b> Wiemer, Bjoern <a
                            href="mailto:wiemerb@uni-mainz.de"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><wiemerb@uni-mainz.de></a>;
                          Gilles Authier <a
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                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><gilles.authier@gmail.com></a><br>
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                          <b>Emne:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] languages of
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                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Et
                        si l'article est sur une langue romane mais les
                        références jugées indispensables sont écrites en
                        allemand ou en danois … ?</span></p>
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                                                Professor Emeritus of
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                                                Linguistics<br>
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                        Wiemer, Bjoern <<a
                          href="mailto:wiemerb@uni-mainz.de"
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                        <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2020 9:44 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Gilles Authier <<a
                          href="mailto:gilles.authier@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gilles.authier@gmail.com</a>>;
                        Nigel Vincent <<a
                          href="mailto:nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk</a>><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> <a
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                        <b>Subject:</b> AW: [Lingtyp] languages of
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                          lang="DE">Je pense que oui…  Actually, the
                          same applies to articles on (a language from)
                          other language groups (e.g., Slavic) or
                          subgroups (e.g., Scandinavian)…</span><span
                          lang="DE"></span></p>
                      <p><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                          lang="DE">BW</span><span lang="DE"></span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                          lang="DE"> </span><span lang="DE"></span></p>
                      <p><b><span
                            style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"
                            lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
                          style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"
                          lang="DE"> Lingtyp [<a
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                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>]
                          <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Gilles Authier<br>
                          <b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 26. Juni 2020 09:35<br>
                          <b>An:</b> Nigel Vincent <<a
                            href="mailto:nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk</a>><br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> <a
                            href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
                          <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] languages of
                          scholarship</span><span lang="DE"></span></p>
                      <p><span lang="DE"> </span></p>
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                        <p><span lang="DE">Si l'article est sur une
                            langue romane et que les références jugées
                            indispensables sont écrites dans une langue
                            romane, il me semblerait devoir être rejeté,
                            oui.</span></p>
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                          <p><span lang="DE">GA</span></p>
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                          <p><span lang="DE">On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at
                              7:52 AM Nigel Vincent <<a
                                href="mailto:nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk</a>>
                              wrote:</span></p>
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                              <p><span
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                                  lang="DE">A related question to Ian's
                                  that I have sometimes thought about
                                  concerns the languages a researcher
                                  should be able to read in order to
                                  access relevant scholarship. Should,
                                  for example, a paper be rejected or
                                  revisions asked for if someone writing
                                  in English on a general linguistic
                                  topic has not cited relevant work
                                  written in a language other than
                                  English?</span><span lang="DE"></span></p>
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                              <p><span
                                  style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"
                                  lang="DE">Nigel</span><span lang="DE"></span></p>
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                                  lang="DE"> </span><span lang="DE"></span></p>
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                                                      <p><span
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                                                          lang="DE">Professor
                                                          Nigel Vincent,
                                                          FBA MAE<br>
                                                          Professor
                                                          Emeritus of
                                                          General &
                                                          Romance
                                                          Linguistics<br>
                                                          The University
                                                          of Manchester</span><span
                                                          lang="DE"></span></p>
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                                                        <p><span
                                                          style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
                                                          lang="DE">Linguistics
                                                          & English
                                                          Language<br>
                                                          School of
                                                          Arts,
                                                          Languages and
                                                          Cultures</span><span
                                                          lang="DE"></span></p>
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                                                          lang="DE">The
                                                          University of
                                                          Manchester</span><span
                                                          lang="DE"></span></p>
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                                                      <p><span
                                                          style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
                                                          lang="DE"><a
href="https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/en/researchers/nigel-vincent(f973a991-8ece-453e-abc5-3ca198c869dc).html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/en/researchers/nigel-vincent(f973a991-8ece-453e-abc5-3ca198c869dc).html</a></span><span
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                          <p><span lang="DE">_______________________________________________<br>
                              Lingtyp mailing list<br>
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                                href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp</a></span></p>
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Ilja A. Seržant, postdoc
Project "Grammatical Universals"
Universität Leipzig (IPF 141199)
Nikolaistraße 6-10
04109 Leipzig 

URL: <a href="http://home.uni-leipzig.de/serzant/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://home.uni-leipzig.de/serzant/</a>

Tel.: + 49 341 97 37713
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Martin Haspelmath (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:haspelmath@shh.mpg.de">haspelmath@shh.mpg.de</a>)
Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
Kahlaische Strasse 10   
D-07745 Jena  
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Leipzig University
Institut fuer Anglistik 
IPF 141199
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