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<div class="">In Hup, a Naduhup language of NW Amazonia, ‘take’ is the source of the primary/default causativizer in SVCs (among a few other causativizing strategies, also from verbs). For example:</div>
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</span>tɨh-an <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>d’oʔ-ʔɔt-ɔh</div>
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</span>3sg-<span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;" class="">OBJ <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span></span>take-cry-<span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;" class="">DECL</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal;" class="">‘Denilson made him cry!’ </div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal;" class="">This is discussed in Ch. 9 of my Hup grammar (Epps 2008, A Grammar of Hup, de Gruyter Mouton), mostly from p.399 and forward (though there I noted the impression that this was not so unusual
typologically - maybe this was incorrect!). </div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal;" class="">Please let me know if you’d like more info and I’ll be glad to send it, and thanks for raising this interesting topic.</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal;" class="">All best,</div>
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<div class="">On Aug 20, 2020, at 5:53 AM, David Gil <<a href="mailto:gil@shh.mpg.de" class="">gil@shh.mpg.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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Dear Claudia,</p>
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<span lang="EN-US" class="">A complex pattern of polysemy involving, among many other items, 'take' and causative, is described in Gil (2017) for several languages of Northwest New Guinea, Austronesian and Non-Austronesian.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>A
possible example of partial 'take'/causative coexpression is provided by the isolate language Yawa.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>More commonly, though, the 'take'/causative connection is mediated by 'give', with lots of
languages exhibiting 'take'/'give' coexpression (e.g. Hatam, Meyah, Irarutu), and many other languages in the same region (e.g. Abun, Waropen, Roon) displaying 'give'/causative coexpression.</span></div>
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<span class="">Gil, David (2017) "Roon ve, DO/GIVE Coexpression, and Language Contact in Northwest New Guinea", in A. Schapper ed.,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Contact and Substrate in the Languages of Wallacea Part 1</i>,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">NUSA</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>62:41-100.
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hdl.handle.net/10108/89844">http://hdl.handle.net/10108/89844</a>)</span></div>
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Best,</p>
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On 18/08/2020 15:06, Claudia Wegener wrote:<br class="">
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<p class="">It was suggested to me that grammaticalization of the verb 'take' to a causative marker is typologically unusual, and indeed, apart from the mention of Twi and Nupe (in Kuteva et al. 2019 and sources cited therein) and Fon (Lefebvre 1991) I have
found little to no information on languages where this has happened... Would any of you know any other languages and could point me towards publications I could cite?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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<p class="">And related to this, I have been even less successful at finding languages where the verb for 'to stand' (as posture verb) has been grammaticalized to function as a marker for ingressive - if you know of any, would you be so kind to point me to
any publications?</p>
<p class="">Many thanks in advance,</p>
<p class="">Claudia</p>
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<p class="MsoBibliography"><span lang="EN-GB" style="line-height: 12.84000015258789px;" class="">Lefebvre, Claire. 1991.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Take</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>serial verb constructions in
Fon. In Claire Lefebvre (ed.),<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Serial Verbs: Grammatical, Comparative</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">and Cognitive Approaches</i>, 37-78. Amsterdam, Philadelphia: Benjamins.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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<p class="MsoBibliography"><span lang="EN-GB" style="line-height: 12.84000015258789px;" class="">Kuteva, Tania, Bernd Heine, Bo Hong, Haiping Long, Heiko Narrog & Seongha Rhee (eds.). 2019.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">World Lexicon
of Grammaticalization</i>, 2nd edition. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.</span></p>
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