<div dir="ltr">Dear Claudia,<br><br>you can find some examples of 'take' as a verb expressing a causing event in my database of causatives (constructions described as SVC are included):<br><br><a href="https://github.com/levshina/TypoCaus">https://github.com/levshina/TypoCaus</a> <br><br>They are not so rare, in fact. Here are the frequencies of different lexical meanings from my database, where I could trace them.<br><br> <font face="monospace"> make_do give put send take say affect <br> 24 5 4 3 3 2 1 <br> ask bring command establish EXISTENTIAL grasp pull_out <br> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 <br> stand treat work <br> 1 1 1 <br> </font><br>All the best,<br>Natalia</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:36 PM David Gil <<a href="mailto:gil@shh.mpg.de">gil@shh.mpg.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Dear Claudia,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A complex pattern of
polysemy involving, among many other items, 'take' and
causative, is described
in Gil (2017) for several languages of Northwest New Guinea,
Austronesian and
Non-Austronesian.<span> </span>A
possible example of partial
'take'/causative coexpression is provided by the isolate
language Yawa.<span> </span>More
commonly, though, the 'take'/causative
connection is mediated by 'give', with lots of languages
exhibiting 'take'/'give'
coexpression (e.g. Hatam, Meyah, Irarutu), and many other
languages in the same
region (e.g. Abun, Waropen, Roon) displaying 'give'/causative
coexpression.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:27pt;text-align:justify"><span>Gil, David (2017) "Roon ve,
DO/GIVE Coexpression,
and Language Contact in Northwest New Guinea", in A. Schapper
ed., <i>Contact
and Substrate in the Languages of Wallacea Part 1</i>, <i>NUSA</i>
62:41-100. (<a href="http://hdl.handle.net/10108/89844" target="_blank">http://hdl.handle.net/10108/89844</a>)</span></p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>David<br>
</p>
<p>
</p>
<div>On 18/08/2020 15:06, Claudia Wegener
wrote:<br>
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<p>Dear all, <br>
</p>
<p>It was suggested to me that grammaticalization of the verb
'take' to a causative marker is typologically unusual, and
indeed, apart from the mention of Twi and Nupe (in Kuteva et al.
2019 and sources cited therein) and Fon (Lefebvre 1991) I have
found little to no information on languages where this has
happened... Would any of you know any other languages and could
point me towards publications I could cite? <br>
</p>
<p>And related to this, I have been even less successful at
finding languages where the verb for 'to stand' (as posture
verb) has been grammaticalized to function as a marker for
ingressive - if you know of any, would you be so kind to point
me to any publications?</p>
<p>Many thanks in advance,</p>
<p>Claudia</p>
<p>References:<br>
</p>
<p> </p>
<p><span style="line-height:107%" lang="EN-GB">Lefebvre, Claire.
1991. <i>Take</i> serial verb constructions in Fon. In Claire
Lefebvre (ed.), <i>Serial Verbs: Grammatical, Comparative</i>
<i>and Cognitive Approaches</i>, 37-78. Amsterdam,
Philadelphia: Benjamins. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="line-height:107%" lang="EN-GB">Kuteva, Tania,
Bernd Heine, Bo Hong, Haiping Long, Heiko Narrog & Seongha
Rhee (eds.). 2019. <i>World Lexicon of Grammaticalization</i>,
2nd edition. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.</span></p>
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Abteilung Allgemeine Sprachwissenschaft
Institut für Linguistik
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