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    But what is an "X0" element? We'd have to know this in order to test
    Bruening's claim. Note that German "gelungen" is not a single morph
    (or "morpheme"). It is a complex form "ge-lung-en".<br>
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    There does not seem to be a clear comparative concept "phrase" (vs.
    "non-phrasal element") that one could apply in the same way to all
    languages.<br>
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    Moreover, what exactly is "extraction"? It is fairly clear when we
    talk about question-word fronting (or relative-pronoun fronting),
    but "topic-fronting" occurs in a wide variety of ways.<br>
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    So it seems that, as so often, we need better definitions of
    concepts before we can rigorously test universal claims.<br>
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    Martin<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.08.20 um 14:42 schrieb Adam James
      Ross Tallman:<br>
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          style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:#4c1130">Hey all,</div>
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          style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:#4c1130">Just to
          clarify, I'm asking because I'm wondering how frequent
          apparent counter examples are to <a
            href="https://babel.ucsc.edu/~hank/105/Bruening_2018.pdf"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Bruening</a>'s claim that X0 elements
          cannot be extracted.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:49
          PM Adam James Ross Tallman <<a
            href="mailto:ajrtallman@utexas.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">ajrtallman@utexas.edu</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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              all,</div>
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              style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">I
              am wondering if anyone has found examples where single
              morphemes can extract to first position. It is well-known
              that German can do this as in <br>
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              style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)"><i>Gelungen
                ist hier selten wem was auf anhieb</i></div>
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              style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">succeeded
              is here rarely somebody.DAT something.NOM on first.attempt</div>
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              style="font-family:monospace,monospace;color:rgb(76,17,48)">'that
              it was rarely the case that somebody succeeded in doing
              something here on the first attempt'<br clear="all">
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                class="gmail_default">For some reason the full VP cannot
                extract (<i>*Wem gelunden ist hier selten was auf anhieb</i>).
                You can modify the fronted verb with an adverb <i>so
                  gut </i>and apparently its grammatical (Bruening
                2018)<br>
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                class="gmail_default">In Chácobo one can "extract"
                individual adverbial elements, but as far as I can tell
                only one of these elements can be "extracted" at a time.<br>
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                class="gmail_default"><i>tsaya=yama=kɨ</i></div>
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                class="gmail_default">see=neg=dec:past</div>
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                class="gmail_default"><i><b>yama</b> tsaya=kɨ</i></div>
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                class="gmail_default"><b>neg</b>   see=dec:past<br>
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                class="gmail_default">'s/he didn't see it.'</div>
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                class="gmail_default">I wonder if there are cases like
                Chacobo or like German except where the verb cannot be
                modified by some element that is also fronted. Just
                instances of apparently non-phrasal (word, root or stem)
                extraction would also be interesting.</div>
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                class="gmail_default">p.s. I don't exactly know what
                extraction means all the time. In particular I'm not
                sure on what basis we can always assume that one
                sentence is derived from the other. For instance, in
                Chacobo I don't know on what basis I would assume that
                the verb is not in fact undergoing rightward extraction.<br>
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                class="gmail_default">best,<br>
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                class="gmail_default">Adam<br>
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                                del Museo de Etnografía y Folklore, la
                                Paz<br>
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                                      -- </font>Dynamique Du Langage
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                        University of Texas at Austin<br>
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