<div dir="ltr"><div>Janhunen 1996 uses the term Manchuria for this area and covers its ethnohistory and linguistic history so comprehensively that I consider it a precedent for using that term.</div><div><br></div><div>Janhunen, Juha. Manchuria: An ethnic history. Helsinki: Suomalais-Ugrilainen Seura, 1996.</div><div><br></div><div>Johanna<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:11 PM Dan I. SLOBIN <<a href="mailto:slobin@berkeley.edu">slobin@berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">"Inner" and "outer" convey an implicit hierarchy: some are in and some are out; some are central and some are peripheral.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I suggest a simple, objective solution, avoiding the repetition of names of compass directions, and avoiding what may</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">be seen as value judgments: Boreal Northeast Asia and Austral Southeast Asia -- i.e., North and South, using Latin terms. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I don't think these terms are opaque: "Boreal" will, for some people, evoke "Aurora Borealis," the Northern Lights; </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">"Austral" will evoke southerly geography, as in Austronesia and Australia.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Dan Slobin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:28 AM JOO, Ian [Student] <<a href="mailto:ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk" target="_blank">ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="auto">Dear all,<br>
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(I’m sorry if no one cares, but just for the update)<br>
Although no one suggested any alternatives, I gave it a thought and changed the terms “Mainland Northeast Asia” to “Inner Northeast Asia” (as opposed to “Outer Northeast Asia”, i. e. the rest of Northeast Asia).<br>
Below is a visualized map of Inner and Outher Northeast Asia.<br>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 31 Dec 2020, 6:13 PM +0800, JOO, Ian [Student] <<a href="mailto:ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk" target="_blank">ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk</a>>, wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Dear all,<br>
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In my doctoral research, I refer to the lingistic area consisting of Korea, Mongolia, and Northeast China (but not Japan or Russian Far East) as "Mainland Northeast Asia."<br>
But this name is problematic, since Siberia is just as continental (part of "mainland") as well, and I don't intend to include Siberia.<br>
Because of this, I have been thinking of a better name for this area. <br>
The best one I can think of is <strong>Astragalia, </strong>from the name of the herb astragalus, which is native to Korea, Northeast China, Mongolia, and Southern Siberia.<br>
The downside of this fancy name is that, upon hearing it, whoever not familiar with herbalism will have no idea where it points to, without further explanation.<br>
Are there any other name candidates you can think of? If so, I would welcome all suggestions.<br>
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>From Hong Kong,<br>
Ian<br>
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