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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">Dear Ellen.<br>
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Roman", serif;"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">A
possible diachronic case of what you'r</span><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ascii-theme-font:
major-bidi;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-bidi;mso-bidi-theme-font:major-bidi">e
looking for</span><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ascii-theme-font:
major-bidi;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-bidi;mso-bidi-theme-font:major-bidi"></span>
is provided by the biconsonantal Semitic root
morpheme <i>k-l</i>.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">Appended
below is a passage from an encyclopaedia article on quantifiers
about the
realizations and functions of <i>k-l</i> in Hebrew.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Among these functions you
can find 'be able to'
and 'ability'.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>As for
'until', you can
express that periphrastically by means of the <i>k-l-y</i> root
meaning
'finish', though it's not the most common way of expressing that
meaning.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">So
Hebrew gives you the coexpression you're looking for, with the
provisos that the
relationship between the two is </span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">indirect,
being mediated by several additional
functions, and also </span>synchronically opaqu</span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e, r</span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e</span>fl</span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e</span>cting</span>
word-formation proc</span><span style="font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;">ess</span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">es
som</span></span></span><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e
of which may dat</span></span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e
back to proto-S</span></span></span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;">emitic or </span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">ev</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;">en </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;">earli</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;">er</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">Sp</span><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e</span></span></span>culating</span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">, the
rang</span><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">e of functions of S</span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">emitic</span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> <i>k-l
</i>might b</span><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;">e</span></span></span> consist</span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e</span></span></span>nt
with</span><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;"> paths of grammaticalization</span></span></span>
som</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">ewhat lik</span></span></span></span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">e</span></span></span></span></span></span>
th</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">e following, which, in conjunction,
would </span></span></span>yield can/until coexpr</span><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">e</span></span></span>ssion:<br>
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Roman", serif;"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">HAVE MASTERY OVER > FINISH > UNTIL</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">HAVE MASTERY OVER > CAN<br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">*****</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;">"Consider,
for example, the Modern Hebrew universal quantifier <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">kol</i> 'all'.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Synchronically
it
is clearly monomorphemic; however, in its diachronic origins, it
reflects an
ancient biconsonantal root morpheme <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">k-l</i>.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Such roots form the basis
of much of the
Afroasiatic lexicon; however, in the Semitic family, the
biconsonantal roots
are often expanded into tri-consonantal ones, by the addition of
a third root
consonant.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Resulting
from this
historical process, and also from the synchronic processes of
word formation in
Modern Hebrew, is a large family of words, all containing
reflexes of the
original root <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">k-l </i>morpheme,
and all
connected via a semantic network based on the related concepts
of ability,
containment, consumption, exhaustiveness, and the like.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Some members of this family
include verbal
forms such as <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">yaxal</i>
'be able to'
(from root <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">y-k-l</i>); <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">axal</i> 'eat', <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">ʔikel</i> 'consume' (<i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">ʔ-k-l</i>); <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">ʕikel</i> 'digest' (<i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">ʕ-k-l</i>); <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kala</i>
'end',
'cease to exist'; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kila</i>
'finish',
'exterminate' (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">k-l-y</i>);
<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kala</i> 'imprison' (<i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">k-l-ʔ</i>); <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kal</i>
'measure', <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">hexil</i>
'contain' (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">k-w-l</i>); <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kiyel</i>
'calibrate'
(<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">k-y-l</i>); <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">kalal</i> 'include', <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">hixlil</i>
'generalize', <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">šixlel</i>
'improve' (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">k-l-l</i>); and
<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">kilkel</i> 'support', 'provide for' (<i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">k-l-k-l</i>); and also related nominal forms such as <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">oxel</i> 'food'; <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">kli</i> 'utensil'; <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kila</i> 'bed
curtain'; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">meyxal</i>
'container'; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">heyxal</i>
'palace'; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">mixlala</i> 'college'; <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">makolet</i>
'grocery store'; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kele</i>
'jail'; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">klal</i> 'rule';
<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal">kilayon</i> 'extermination'; <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">yexolet</i>
'ability'; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">kalkala</i>
'economy' and many
others.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>(Note that in
many of the above
examples, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">k</i> is
reflected by its
allophone <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">x</i>.)"</span></p>
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<p class="ReferencesT" style="mso-pagination:widow-orphan
lines-together"><span style="font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" lang="EN-US">Gil, David (2001)
"Quantifiers", in M. Haspelmath, E. König, W. Oesterreicher and
W.
Raible eds., <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">Language
Typology and
Linguistic Universals, An International Handbook</i>, Volume
2, Walter de
Gruyter, Berlin, 1275-1294.</span></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/01/2021 14:11, Smith-Dennis,
Ellen wrote:<br>
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for 'able, can' is polysemous/homophonous with 'until, up to,
for (X amount of time)'. This is the case in Papapana
(Austronesian, Papua New Guinea) and Tok Pisin (pidgin/creole,
PNG) so I'm especially (but not only!) interested in languages
of the Pacific region.
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Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History
Kahlaische Strasse 10, 07745 Jena, Germany
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