<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Ian,</div><div><br></div><div>It looks like the file was too large to send to the group email, but the dissertation is available online.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Moira<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:31 PM Moira Saltzman <<a href="mailto:moiras@umich.edu">moiras@umich.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Ian, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Jin-Seong Lee's attached 1992 dissertation, "Phonology and sound symbolism of Korean idiophones", contains a list of ideophones of different types starting on page 349.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div>Moira<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:39 AM Anvita Abbi <<a href="mailto:anvitaabbi@gmail.com" target="_blank">anvitaabbi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,255)">Dear Ian,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,255)">Recently there have been several publications on Ideophones or Expressives. One such publication worth mentioning is <i style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype",serif" lang="EN-GB">Expressive Morphology in the Languages of South
Asia.</span></i><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype",serif" lang="EN-GB">
Edited by Jeffrey P. Williams. London & New York. Routledge. 2021. I have a paper in this volume with a long list of expressives in Khasi, a Mon Khmer Austroasiatic language and Tangkhul Naga, a Tibeto-Burman language. The paper is attached to this email. Hope you find it useful.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype",serif" lang="EN-GB">You may also find the book </span><i style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype",serif" lang="EN-GB">Non-Proto Typical Reduplication. </span></i><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype",serif" lang="EN-GB">Edited
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<div dir="auto">Dear all,<br>
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Thank you for your helpful comments.<br>
There seems to have been a slight misunderstanding that I would like to apologize for having caused: When I mentioned "a sizeable list of ideophones" I did not intend to mean theoretical works on ideophones that include a number of sample ideophones from a
language. Such works are indeed numerous and not hard to find.<br>
What I meant was a wordlist, or even a dictionary of ideophones that have hundreds or even thousands of ideophone entries, since our goal is to make something like a Leipzig-Jakarta List/Swadesh List of ideophones from many different languages.<br>
Again, I apologize for not having been clear in my initial message. I would appreciate your understanding.</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 12 Jan 2021, 5:54 PM +0800, Karolina Grzech <<a href="mailto:karolina.grzech@ling.su.se" target="_blank">karolina.grzech@ling.su.se</a>>, wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">There is substantial research by Janis Nuckolls on ideophones in Pastaza Quichua, spoken in Ecuador, e.g. her 1996</span>
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book “</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sounds like life: sound-symbolic grammar, performance and cognition in Pastaza Quichua”</span></p>
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Lingtyp [mailto:<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of</b> VITTRANT Alice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 January 2021 10:19<br>
<b>To:</b> paolo Ramat <<a href="mailto:paolo.ramat@unipv.it" target="_blank">paolo.ramat@unipv.it</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] List of ideophones in any language</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I recently published a paper on ideophones and sound symbolism in Neo-Aramaic:</p>
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My colleagues and I are working on a cross-linguistic database of basic ideophones and compiling a bibliography of works that contain a sizeable list of ideophones (aka mimetics, expressives, sound-symbolic words) in any language. Please find attached the bibliography.
There are surprisingly little.<br>
If you are aware of any work that includes a sizeable list of ideophones in any language, then we would greatly appreciate it if you could let us know. A general dictionary that includes many ideophones is good too but ideally it should have ideophones as a
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