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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">OK.<br>
How about a dictionary such as<br>
<blockquote>Alpher, Barry. 1991. <i>Yir-Yoront Lexicon: Sketch
and Dictionary of an Australian Language</i> (Trends in
Linguistics, Documentation 6) Mouton de Gruyter.<br>
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which has all the recorded ideophones in the language, but only
just over a hundred in number.<br>
<br>
It strikes me that the analogy with a Swadesh List is weak, in
that lists of that ilk are of senses all of which are expected to
be lexicalised in every language (or, almost all, in languages of
a large region); an expectation which has been borne out. <br>
<br>
David<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.anu.edu.au/linguistics/nash/">http://www.anu.edu.au/linguistics/nash/</a><br>
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On 12/1/21 21:03, JOO, Ian [Student] wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Dear all,<br>
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Thank you for your helpful comments.<br>
There seems to have been a slight misunderstanding that I
would like to apologize for having caused: When I mentioned "a
sizeable list of ideophones" I did not intend to mean
theoretical works on ideophones that include a number of
sample ideophones from a language. Such works are indeed
numerous and not hard to find.<br>
What I meant was a wordlist, or even a dictionary of
ideophones that have hundreds or even thousands of ideophone
entries, since our goal is to make something like a
Leipzig-Jakarta List/Swadesh List of ideophones from many
different languages.<br>
Again, I apologize for not having been clear in my initial
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 12 Jan 2021, 5:54 PM +0800,
Karolina Grzech <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:karolina.grzech@ling.su.se"><karolina.grzech@ling.su.se></a>, wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There
is substantial research by Janis Nuckolls on ideophones
in Pastaza Quichua, spoken in Ecuador, e.g. her 1996</span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">book
“</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sounds
like life: sound-symbolic grammar, performance and
cognition in Pastaza Quichua”</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best,</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Karolina</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 January 2021 10:19<br>
<b>To:</b> paolo Ramat <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:paolo.ramat@unipv.it"><paolo.ramat@unipv.it></a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] List of ideophones in
any language</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Ian, </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You may check in : </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>The Aesthetics of Grammar</i> ,
(2013) Williams, J. (ed), Cambridge, Cambridge
University Press</p>
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paolo Ramat <<a
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a écrit :</p>
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Bibliography of Prof. Alberto Mioni,
University of Padua.</p>
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alle ore 08:57 Geoffrey Khan <<a
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recently published a paper on ideophones
and sound symbolism in Neo-Aramaic:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Khan, Geoffrey.
‘Sound Symbolism in Neo-Aramaic’. In <i>Near
Eastern and Arabian Essays: Studies
in Honour of John F. Healey</i>,
edited by George J Brooke, Adrian H.
W. Curtis, Muntasir al-Hamad, and G.
Rex Smith, 197–214. Journal of Semitic
Studies Supplement 41. Oxford: Oxford
University Press, 2018.</p>
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My colleagues and I are working on a
cross-linguistic database of basic
ideophones and compiling a
bibliography of works that contain a
sizeable list of ideophones (aka
mimetics, expressives,
sound-symbolic words) in any
language. Please find attached the
bibliography. There are surprisingly
little.<br>
If you are aware of any work that
includes a sizeable list of
ideophones in any language, then we
would greatly appreciate it if you
could let us know. A general
dictionary that includes many
ideophones is good too but ideally
it should have ideophones as a
separate list or at least separately
labelled and digitally searchable.</p>
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