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<p>Dear Jesús,<br>
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<p>Many varieties of colloquial Indonesian have an even simpler
option, whereby in (the loose equivalent of) "You came, I saw
you", "You came" can be interpreted as denoting a specific time.
Gil (1994) examples (9) and (10) illustrate this for the Riau
dialect of Indonesian; here is example (9):<br>
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<p>Kita datang taksi pun datang<br>
1.PL.INCL arrive taxi FOC arrive<br>
[in the given context:] 'When we get there, a taxi will also get
there'<br>
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<p>Of course, while characterizing such constructions as temporal
adverbial clauses is fine from an "etic", or "comparative-concept"
point of view, doing so does violence to the way the actual
language is structured, in which, from an "emic" or
"language-specific" perspective, the two clauses stand in a
weaker, underspecified relationship of association ("You came, I
saw you, and these two activities are connected in some way").<br>
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On the face of things, this is a bit like Juergen's Yucatec Maya
example, except that here there is no morphological marking of any
kind (such as nominalization, TAM, etc.).<br>
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<p>David</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/2021 06:17, Jesus Francisco
Olguin Martinez wrote:<br>
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serif">Dear all,</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">I am currently writing my dissertation on
temporal adverbial clauses in the languages of
the world. </font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">As you know, many languages express
temporal adverbial relations (e.g. <i>when</i>-relations,
<i>while</i>-relations) by means of
constructions that appear with temporal nouns
(e.g. 'time' 'day', 'year'; e.g. 'the time they
arrived, they sat down'; Thompson et al 2007;
Hetterle 2015; Diessel 2019; Olguín Martínez
2020).</font></div>
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serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">As discussed by Diessel (2019: 106), in
some languages the temporal noun can be omitted
resulting in constructions such as the
following:</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">1. At (the time) you came, I saw you.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">2. (the time) that you came, I saw you.</font></div>
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serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">In the sample of my dissertation, I came
across 56 languages not genetically related that
seem to use this type of construction, as a
primary strategy, to express various semantic
types of adverbial clauses. The most common
patterns I have found in the sample are the
following:</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">3. LOCATIVE (temporal noun)
RELATIVIZER/RELATIVE PRONOUN.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">4. LOCATIVE (temporal noun).</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">5. (temporal noun) RELATIVIZER/RELATIVE
PRONOUN.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">6. DEMONSTRATIVE (temporal noun).</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">Are you aware of any studies that have
addressed this phenomenon? Are you aware of any
languages that express temporal adverbial
relations by means of this type of construction?</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">Thank you very much in advance. </font></div>
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serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif">Best regards,</font></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
face="georgia, serif">Jesús Olguín Martínez</font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
size="2" face="georgia, serif">Ph.D.
Candidate, Dept. of Linguistics</font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
size="2" face="georgia, serif"><i>University
of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB)</i></font></div>
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size="2" face="georgia, serif"><a
href="http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/people/jes%C3%BAs-olgu%C3%ADn-mart%C3%ADnez"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/people/jesús-olguín-martínez</a></font></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
size="2" face="georgia, serif"><span
class="gmail_default">References</span></font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
face="georgia, serif"><font size="2"><span
class="gmail_default"></span></font><span
style="color:black;text-align:justify">Diessel,
Holger. 2019. Preposed adverbial clauses:
Functional
adaptation and diachronic inheritance. In
Karsten Schmidtke-Bode, Natalia
Levshina, Susanne Maria Michaelis, &
Ilja Seržant (eds.), </span><i
style="color:black;text-align:justify">Explanation
in linguistic typology:
Diachronic sources, functional motivations
and the nature of the evidence</i><span
style="color:black;text-align:justify">,
97-122. Leipzig: Language Science Press.</span></font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
face="georgia, serif"><span
style="text-align:justify">Hetterle Katja.
2015. </span><i
style="text-align:justify">Adverbial
clauses in cross-linguistic perspective. </i><span
style="text-align:justify">Berlin/Boston:
De Gruyter Mouton.</span></font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
face="georgia, serif"><span
style="text-align:justify;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Olguín
Martínez, Jesús. 2020. Attributive
temporal clauses in cross-linguistic
perspective. </span><i
style="text-align:justify;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Te
Reo</i><span
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</span><i
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<div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);margin:0px"><font
face="georgia, serif"><span
style="text-align:justify;color:black">Thompson,
Sandra, Robert
Longacre, </span><span
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style="color:black"> Shin Hwang. 2007.
Adverbial clauses. In Timothy Shopen,
(ed.), </span><i>Language typology and
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