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That is similar to the main point of my 1990 Language paper on split-intransitivity: there seems to be two main types of split-intransitive systems, one based on verb classes/Aktionsart (e.g., Italian, Georgian) and one based on agentivity (e.g. Acehnese).
Given that two quite different factors can underlie a split-intransitive system, it is unlikely that a single pair of terms will apply to all cases. ‘Agent(ive)’ vs. 'Patient(ive)’ would work for some splits but is irrelevant for the Italian/Georgian-type
splits, whereas ’stative/inactive’ vs. ‘active’ would not capture what is going on in languages like Acehnese or Ts’ova Tush (Bats) [Holisky 1987].
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<div dir="ltr" class="">There are also the simple Agent/Patient and Active/Stative, which refer to systems that are similar up to a point but not identical. The first distinguishes control/volition/affecteness, etc. while the second distinguishes events from
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<i class="">Language</i> 67: 510-546, Reprinted 2019 in a Special Issue on Indigenous languages: 20th century perspectives.<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 7:22 AM Van Valin, Robert <<a href="mailto:vanvalin@buffalo.edu" class="">vanvalin@buffalo.edu</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">On May 12, 2021, at 09:24, Martin Haspelmath <<a href="mailto:martin_haspelmath@eva.mpg.de" target="_blank" class="">martin_haspelmath@eva.mpg.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">I don't think there's anything wrong with "actor-holding - undergoer-holding", but why not simply "agentive – patientive"?<br class="">
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The term pair "actor/undergoer" was coined by Foley & Van Valin (1984: §2.1) in order to have a way to generalize over the following kinds of situations:<br class="">
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Van Valin also used "Actor" and "Undergoer" for two types of Lakota single-argument verbs, but it is well-known that there's a wide range of ways in which languages can have multiple valency constructions for single-argument verbs.</div>
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Francesca Merlan’s paper in the 1985 Nichols & Woodbury (eds) ‘Grammar inside and outside the clause’ volume is very important in this regard, as she shows that languages exhibiting split-intransitivity differ significantly in terms of the markedness of the
two major classes. For example, in Lakhota the so-called ‘active’ class is the smaller, more restricted class (must have an animate argument), while there is no such restriction on the verbs in the larger, unmarked class of so-called ’stative’ verbs. She
argues that in Iroquoian the situation is reversed: the unmarked class is the ‘active’ class, and the smaller, restricted class contains the ’stative’ predicates. Given the diversity she documents, it’s not obvious that terms like ‘actor/undergoer’ or ‘agentive/patientive’
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For example, Russian has some single-argument verbs that take an Accusative argument (<i class="">menja tošnit</i><span class=""> </span>'I.ACC feel sick') and others that take a Dative argument (<i class="">mne nezdorovitsja</i><span class=""> </span>'I.DAT
feel sick'). Are both these valency classes "undergoer-holding"? Or maybe "actor-holding" because experiencers are sentient and therefore more like agents?<br class="">
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This example highlights another problem with these terms, namely the lack of clear criteria for assigning them when used outside of a well-defined theoretical framework.<br class="">
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So for the stereotypical subdivision of single-argument verbs ("active – inactive" in Klimov 1977), maybe "agentive – patientive" is the best choice?</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">The only or direct actant of an intransitive verb may be its actor (<i class="">run</i>) or its undergoer (<i class="">die</i>). This may be taken to be a feature of the verb's valency. There are then two valency classes of
intransitive verbs. I know of the following terms for these:<br class="">
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agentive - non-agentive<br class="">
unergative - unaccusative (Perlmutter)<br class="">
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All of these pairs have terminological or conceptual problems (which I can name if desired). I have therefore been looking for better terms. I had called them<br class="">
actor-oriented - undergoer-oriented.<br class="">
However, I need the term 'oriented' in verbal grammar in a different sense, so I have to replace these. Currently, I call them<br class="">
actor-holding - undergoer-holding<br class="">
Not particularly elegant, are they?<br class="">
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Are there good terms on the linguistic market (of the past two centuries) for what is meant by the above? Or failing this, brilliant neologisms?<br class="">
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